An open letter to Rabbi Matisyahu Salomon, Mashgiach, Bais Medrash Govoha, Lakewood, New Jersey:
Dear Rabbi Salomon:
I heard your speech at the Agudah Convention and have a few comments and questions I would like to share with you. I am writing this letter in an open forum as I believe the issues herein are of vital importance to our people and warrant the same circulation as your much publicized speech.
I take no issue with your well reasoned argument calling for civility in expression of disagreement. Bnai Torah should be able to agree to disagree. While I join you in condemning the deplorable language used by the few, I respectfully suggest that dissenters need not be placed in the category of “rasha,” or “maskil” for you to make your point. Likewise, suggestions of “hakei es shinov” and proclamations that children of select members of our community whose views you may disagree with have no place in our schools; do little to further civilized discourse.
In your speech you made a point of declaring your lack of cowardice in dealing with the issue of sexual abuse by rabbeim in yeshiva and insisted that keeping your efforts discreet or as you put it to “sweep under the carpet,” is a choice you make to protect human dignity. Whose dignity are you referring to? The dignity of those few victims courageous enough to step forward and confront these powerful monsters or the dignity of these monsters and their poor families? I respectfully suggest that by concerning yourself with the dignity of the pedophile and sweeping his heinous acts under the carpet, you subject his victims to another round of abuse at the hands of the community while enabling the predator to continue his reign of terror on unsuspecting victims.
We are taught “chochmah b’goyim, taamin.” Medical statistics tell us that a treated pedophile has a sixty percent rate of recidivism. This places the pedophile squarely in the category of a rodeph and as such we have a duty to our community to expose him so that potential victims are aware of this clear and present danger. Sex Offender Registries exist for a reason. Namely, the law and medical science recognize that these people are incapable of controlling themselves. You may be impressed by a heartfelt and tearful confession coupled with a commitment to never again succumb to temptation, (“teshuva”). However, you will not be present when this pedophile succumbs to his overwhelming urges and destroys another poor innocent life. Respectfully, you do not have the right to ignore universally accepted medical knowledge and take innocent children’s lives into your hands for the sake of a pedophile’s “dignity.”
Indeed, your strategy of not acting until the pedophile has been proved 100 percent guilty and using the Torah as your guide to protect our mosdos is not new. As will be shown below this very same strategy was followed by many other rabbonim with disastrous results. Rabbi Shalom Yosef Elyashiv puts it best while writing about this very issue. Rabbi Elyashiv quotes the Rashba who writes in his Responsa, III no. 393, “…Because if you will adjudicate based only on the laws established by the Torah, society will be destroyed…” (emphasis added).
Yes, we do need to stop “the terrible assault” and “immunize against a plague” of “insidious poison seeping in.” It is our duty to teach our children to “rise in their defense” and of course we must “give them the ammunition to fight back when they are attacked.” You and I differ only in our opinion of where the threat lies. You maintain with an impressive fervor that the threat lies with disrespectful bloggers. I respectfully disagree and see the threat to be that deadly minority of rabbeim who are morally corrupt and are destroying our children.
In your speech you alluded to the case of Rabbi Yehuda Kolko, a rebbe in Yeshiva Torah Temimah for over thirty-eight years. You express indignation that this one example of a pedophile that “slips through the fingers” is being used as an illustration of how Klal Yisroel behaves. Rabbi Salomon; unfortunately one is as one does. As such, this is who we are as a community today. Tragically, the story as depicted by the secular media in all its gory detail is but the tip of the iceberg.
The below bullet point history is general and merely touches upon events of the past forty years. If you want more details, I suggest you confer with Rabbi Ephraim Wachsman, who was employed by Kolko in Camp Ma-Na-Vu and will surely share his knowledge of events with you. Remind Rabbi Wachsman of his expression of remorse to his friends for not having informed his uncle, Rabbi Shloime Klein, of Kolko’s predilection for young boys when Rabbi Klein was embroiled in a difficult din torah with Kolko and Rabbi Lipa Geldwirth in or around 1990.
Dear Rabbi Salomon:
I heard your speech at the Agudah Convention and have a few comments and questions I would like to share with you. I am writing this letter in an open forum as I believe the issues herein are of vital importance to our people and warrant the same circulation as your much publicized speech.
I take no issue with your well reasoned argument calling for civility in expression of disagreement. Bnai Torah should be able to agree to disagree. While I join you in condemning the deplorable language used by the few, I respectfully suggest that dissenters need not be placed in the category of “rasha,” or “maskil” for you to make your point. Likewise, suggestions of “hakei es shinov” and proclamations that children of select members of our community whose views you may disagree with have no place in our schools; do little to further civilized discourse.
In your speech you made a point of declaring your lack of cowardice in dealing with the issue of sexual abuse by rabbeim in yeshiva and insisted that keeping your efforts discreet or as you put it to “sweep under the carpet,” is a choice you make to protect human dignity. Whose dignity are you referring to? The dignity of those few victims courageous enough to step forward and confront these powerful monsters or the dignity of these monsters and their poor families? I respectfully suggest that by concerning yourself with the dignity of the pedophile and sweeping his heinous acts under the carpet, you subject his victims to another round of abuse at the hands of the community while enabling the predator to continue his reign of terror on unsuspecting victims.
We are taught “chochmah b’goyim, taamin.” Medical statistics tell us that a treated pedophile has a sixty percent rate of recidivism. This places the pedophile squarely in the category of a rodeph and as such we have a duty to our community to expose him so that potential victims are aware of this clear and present danger. Sex Offender Registries exist for a reason. Namely, the law and medical science recognize that these people are incapable of controlling themselves. You may be impressed by a heartfelt and tearful confession coupled with a commitment to never again succumb to temptation, (“teshuva”). However, you will not be present when this pedophile succumbs to his overwhelming urges and destroys another poor innocent life. Respectfully, you do not have the right to ignore universally accepted medical knowledge and take innocent children’s lives into your hands for the sake of a pedophile’s “dignity.”
Indeed, your strategy of not acting until the pedophile has been proved 100 percent guilty and using the Torah as your guide to protect our mosdos is not new. As will be shown below this very same strategy was followed by many other rabbonim with disastrous results. Rabbi Shalom Yosef Elyashiv puts it best while writing about this very issue. Rabbi Elyashiv quotes the Rashba who writes in his Responsa, III no. 393, “…Because if you will adjudicate based only on the laws established by the Torah, society will be destroyed…” (emphasis added).
Yes, we do need to stop “the terrible assault” and “immunize against a plague” of “insidious poison seeping in.” It is our duty to teach our children to “rise in their defense” and of course we must “give them the ammunition to fight back when they are attacked.” You and I differ only in our opinion of where the threat lies. You maintain with an impressive fervor that the threat lies with disrespectful bloggers. I respectfully disagree and see the threat to be that deadly minority of rabbeim who are morally corrupt and are destroying our children.
In your speech you alluded to the case of Rabbi Yehuda Kolko, a rebbe in Yeshiva Torah Temimah for over thirty-eight years. You express indignation that this one example of a pedophile that “slips through the fingers” is being used as an illustration of how Klal Yisroel behaves. Rabbi Salomon; unfortunately one is as one does. As such, this is who we are as a community today. Tragically, the story as depicted by the secular media in all its gory detail is but the tip of the iceberg.
The below bullet point history is general and merely touches upon events of the past forty years. If you want more details, I suggest you confer with Rabbi Ephraim Wachsman, who was employed by Kolko in Camp Ma-Na-Vu and will surely share his knowledge of events with you. Remind Rabbi Wachsman of his expression of remorse to his friends for not having informed his uncle, Rabbi Shloime Klein, of Kolko’s predilection for young boys when Rabbi Klein was embroiled in a difficult din torah with Kolko and Rabbi Lipa Geldwirth in or around 1990.
A Partial Biography of Rabbi Yehuda Kolko & Rabbi Lipa Margulies
· 1967 – While working as Dormitory Counselor at Yeshivas Mir, Rabbi Yehuda Kolko calls a student (name withheld) out of his dormitory room and begins discussing matters of a sexual nature with him while rubbing up against him in an aroused state. This abuse continues for the remainder of the school year and into the summer season at Camp Agudah. This student is now a distinguished Manhattan attorney living happily with his partner in New York City and insists that his lifestyle choice has absolutely nothing to do with his abuse by Kolko.
· 1969 thru 1971 - Rabbi Yehuda Kolko begins abusing Dovid Framowitz in Yeshiva Torah Vodaas of Flatbush (now known as Yeshiva Torah Temimah) and Camp Agudah, the details of which abuse are now public knowledge. Mr. Framowitz, a grandfather living in Eretz Yisroel, has not gone a day since being abused without reliving the unspeakable agony he suffered at Kolko’s hands.
· 1972 - Rabbi Yehuda Kolko sexually abuses two young campers (names withheld at the request of the victims) in Camp Agudah who complain to their counselor. Their counselor reports the complaint to Rabbi Simcha Kaufman. The abuse of these two boys cease for the remainder of that summer. Rabbi Simcha Kaufman is a co-worker of Kolko in Yeshiva Torah Temimah (more on Kaufman below) and was a co-worker of Kolko in Camp Agudah until 1976 when Kolko voluntarily left Camp Agudah after he co-founded Camp Ma-Na-Vu with Rabbi Lipa Geldwirth, another co-worker of his at Yeshiva Torah Temimah.
· 1977 – Rabbi Yehuda Kolko, employed as a rebbe in Yeshiva Torah Temimah in the morning, is employed in the afternoons by Yeshiva Karlin Stolin as Secular Studies Principal. During the course of his short tenure in Yeshiva Karlin Stolin numerous complaints are lodged by both students and parents (names withheld at the request of the victims) accusing Kolko of sexually abusing boys in the yeshiva. Rabbi Shmuel Dishon asks Kolko to leave the employ of the yeshiva.
· 1977 on – Eyewitness testimony and accusations of sexual abuse by Rabbi Yehuda Kolko of students at Yeshiva Torah Temimah and Camp Ma-Na-Vu reach a crescendo which culminates in several businessmen approaching Rabbi Lipa Margulies in 1984 and offering to fund a retirement package for Rabbi Yehuda Kolko provided he seeks employment away from children. Rabbi Lipa Margulies steadfastly refuses to accept the offer and suggests that those parents who disagree with his decision remove their children from his Yeshiva Torah Temimah.
· 1981 – Rabbi Yehuda Kolko sexually abuses a twelve year old student of Yeshiva Torah Temimah (name withheld at the request of the victim.) This victim publicizes the abuse and acts out, vandalizing Kolko’s home and car. Rabbi Lipa Margulies calls this victim's father and warns him that if this activity does not stop his other children would be expelled from yeshiva and the safety of his family could not be guaranteed. This victim is subsequently referred to Avrohom Mondrowitz for counseling.
· 1984 – As instructed by Rabbi Avigdor Miller, an askan calls for a meeting which takes place at the home of Rabbi Yakov Perlow (the Novominsker) and is attended by Rabbi Avrohom Pam, Rabbi Elya Svei, Rabbi Chaim Dov Keller, Rabbi Aharon Schechter, Rabbi Moshe Scheinerman, Rabbi Shia Fishman and Rabbi Yankel Bender. At this meeting, chaired by Rabbi Perlow, the askan discusses what is transpiring to innocent boys at the hands of Rabbi pedophiles and requests that Torah Umesorah and the rabbonim issue a statement calling for their removal from chinuch. Rabbi Svei informs this askan that Torah Umesorah has consulted their attorneys who advised that for Torah Umesorah to admit knowledge of such abuse would subject Torah Umesorah, its staff, all its member schools and their staff to liability for not having reported their knowledge to the authorities earlier. Accordingly, Rabbi Elya Svei informs the askan, neither he nor Torah Umesorah will do anything about this problem.
· 1984 thru 1985 – At directed by Rabbi Avrohom Pam an askan approaches Rabbi Moshe Scheinerman and the two meet with Rabbi Shia (Joshua) Fishman in the office of Torah Umesorah. Both Scheinerman and Fishman neglect to inform this askan that Fishman had been instructed by Torah Umesorah’s lawyer to do nothing about this issue. Rabbi Fishman requests the names of Kolko’s victims and promises absolute confidentiality. Names are provided to Rabbi Fishman who begins his own investigation of the allegations. He meets with and speaks with several victims who pour their hearts out to him after he guarantees them confidentiality. Rabbi Shia Fishman promptly discloses all he has learned to Rabbi Lipa Margulies who in turn publicly disparages and discredits each and every one of those boys who were brave enough to step forward.
· 1985 – A follow up meeting takes place at the home of Rabbi Simcha Kaufman and includes Rabbi Kaufman, Rabbi Lipa Margulies, Rabbi Shia Fishman, an askan and an eyewitness. The eyewitness recounts his personal knowledge of Rabbi Kolko’s sexual abuse of boys and discusses the information he had gleaned from others. Rabbi Lipa Margulies insists that the charges are all fabrications and attacks the reputations of everyone involved in seeking the removal of Kolko from his Yeshiva Torah Temimah. Rabbi Shia Fishman subsequently informs anyone who asks that he can not deal with this issue as he is old (50 at the time) and will lose his job if he pursues this matter.
· 1985 – Rabbi Moshe Scheinerman is offered a lucrative and prestigious position as rav of a shul (a position he holds to this day) and is told that he must cease and desist from his actions against Yeshiva Torah Temimah rabbeim (his own words) which he promptly does. Scheinerman abandons ship explaining that it is not appropriate for a rabbi of his stature to deal with these matters. Rabbi Yehoshua Leiman takes over.
· 1985 - Rabbi Yehoshua Leiman and others continue their quest for a solution and convene a bais din for this purpose. This bais din, consisting of Rabbi Menashe Klein, Rabbi Yechezkel Roth, Rabbi Aharon Stein, Rabbi Moshe Stern and Rabbi Chaim Yankel Tauber, is scheduled to hear testimony for two days after which they will rule on how to proceed. This panel meets and hears testimony for one day. Shortly thereafter, Rabbi Moshe Stern states that he is unable to participate in any more sessions and this bais din is disbanded without further explanation. In a private conversation with one of the askanim, Rabbi Stern disclosed that he had been approached by Rabbi Lipa Margulies which resulted in the discontinuance of the din torah.
· 1985 – Upon the dissolution of the above bais din, Rabbi Lipa Margulies retains Rabbi Pinchus Scheinberg to convene a second bais din for the purpose of clearing Rabbi Yehuda Kolko’s name. Rabbi Lipa Margulies then drafts Rabbi Friedman (the Tenka Rav) and Rabbi Shlomo Zalman Brown to serve on Rabbi Scheinberg’s bais din. Prior to convening the bais din, Rabbi Pinchus Scheinberg speaks with several of Kolko’s victims and asks them to describe what Kolko has done to them. Upon hearing the allegations Rabbi Scheinberg informs the boys that in the eyes of halacha they had not been molested. Rabbi Scheinberg also calls the askanim and tells them to cease and desist in their attempts to remove Kolko from chinuch. Rabbi Avigdor Miller disagrees and instructs the askanim in no uncertain terms to do whatever must be done to protect children from Kolko. Rabbi Pinchus Scheinberg convenes the bais din and takes the position that Rabbi Kolko has a chezkas kashrus absent any testimony by two adult witnesses to any single event. Rabbi Friedman takes the position that in light of the persistent rumors Rabbi Kolko must be kept away from children. Rabbi Brown ultimately concedes that there is no halachic evidence against Kolko and the din torah is concluded. Rabbi Lipa Margulies insists that he has a psak from this bais din but to this day has refused to produce it. Regardless, it is of note that no victims testified before this bais din.
· 1987 – Rabbi Yehuda Kolko, having groomed a former first grade student of his for years, begins systematically sexually abusing this boy (name withheld at the request of the victim) both in and out of the Yeshiva Torah Temimah building. When this boy complains to Rabbi Lipa Margulies that his grades are slipping because Kolko is removing him from class almost daily, Margulies responds by slapping the boy across the face and throwing him out of his office. This young man is now living down south where he is on leave of absence from the U.S. Army.
· 2001 – Rabbi Yehuda Kolko, takes a young Yeshiva Torah Temimah student under his wing (name withheld at the request of the victim) and begins removing him from class for “special projects.” These special projects include the boy being sexually molested by Kolko in the basement of the yeshiva, in Rabbi Kolko’s car and in Rabbi Kolko’s private office, which Rabbi Lipa Margulies has conveniently equipped with its own private bathroom. This young man is currently in therapy and hopes to be able to recover enough to be able to get married and start a family.
· 2005 – Dovid Framowitz, after years of searching on the internet, chances upon a post written by a blogger calling himself “Un-Orthodox Jew” which makes reference to Rabbi Lipa Margulies harboring Rabbi Yehuda Kolko, a known pedophile, in his Yeshiva Torah Temimah. Dovid begins communicating with this blogger via e-mail who in turn posts Dovid’s story on his blog. Over the course of several months other victims of Kolko begin to step forward with their stories.
· January 2006 – Several askonim decide that this four decade long chillul hashem must stop and approach both Rabbi Yehuda Kolko and Rabbi Lipa Margulies with a demand that Kolko be removed from Yeshiva Torah Temimah and Camp Silver Lake and further commit to spending the rest of his life in treatment and away from children. Both Kolko and Margulies refuse.
· February 2006 – A letter is drafted informing the public that Rabbi Yehuda Kolko is a dangerous pedophile and that Rabbi Lipa Margulies continues to employ him despite his knowledge of this fact. Copies of this draft letter are delivered to Kolko and Margulies. Both Kolko and Margulies are offered the opportunity to deal quietly with the issue and are informed that if they continue to refuse, the letter would be mass mailed to the entire community. Kolko responds by stating that “the matter has been taken care of” and Margulies responds by asking if anyone “thinks Kolko is still a threat” and declares “if anyone does not like the way I run my yeshiva let them not send their children to my yeshiva.” They refuse to comply and the letter is sent out in a mass mailing.
· February 2006 – Eli Greenwald, a graduate of Yeshiva and Mesivta Torah Temimah, son of one of the founders of the yeshiva and a parent in the yeshiva receives the letter and spends a few days investigating the matter. He calls Rabbi Yaakov Applegrad, the yeshiva’s Administrator, and requests a meeting of the Vaad Ha'horim in order to address this serious issue. Rabbi Applegrad informs him that there will be no meeting as the allegations are false and that he and Rabbi Margulies have the matter under control. Mr. Greenwald called Rabbi Lipa Margulies and makes the same request of him. Rabbi Margulies responds by shouting at him.
· February 17, 2006 – Eli Greenwald is served with a hazmana issued by Rabbi Yisroel Belsky calling him to a din torah to answer the charge of hotzoas shem rah allegedly committed against Rabbi Yehuda Kolko. Mr. Greenwald responds on February 21, 2006, that he will appear for a din torah before the Bais Din of America. To this day there has been no reply to Mr. Greenwald’s response by either Kolko or Rabbi Yisroel Belsky.
· February 2006 – An askan meets with Rabbi Yaakov Perlow and pleads with him to get involved in this matter. Rabbi Perlow refuses on the basis of his being a yuchid and this being a tzibur matter. After being pressed further Rabbi Perlow takes his final stand that this is a Flatbush matter and as he is a Boro Park rabbi it would be unseemly for him to get involved in this matter.
· March 2006 – Rabbi Lipa Margulies reaches a standstill agreement with the askonim by committing to appear before a panel consisting of two rabbonim and one frum lawyer, all three of whom had been chosen by him. Rabbi Lipa Margulies reneges on his promise to appear before this panel.
· March 23, 2006 – A hazmana to a din torah is sent to Rabbi Yehuda Kolko, Rabbi Lipa Margulies and Yeshiva Torah Temimah summoning them to a din torah before the Bais Din of Mechon L’Hoyroa or a bais din of ZBLA. The hazmana is ignored by all the defendants.
· March 30, 2006 – A second hazmana to a din torah is sent to Rabbi Yehuda Kolko, Rabbi Lipa Margulies and Yeshiva Torah Temimah summoning them to a din torah before the Bais Din of Mechon L’Hoyroa or a bais din of ZBLA. By fax sent on April 5, 2006, Rabbi Lipa Margulies responds to this hazmana stating he will not appear for a din torah “without a prior determination of the charges against Rabbi Kolko.” Rabbi Kolko continues to ignore the hazmanas.
· April 6, 2006 – A third hazmana to a din torah is sent to Rabbi Yehuda Kolko, Rabbi Lipa Margulies and Yeshiva Torah Temimah summoning them to a din torah before the Bais Din of Mechon L’Hoyroa or a bais din of ZBLA. By fax sent on April 10, 2006, Rabbi Lipa Margulies responds to this hazmana by stating “the Hazmonah that you sent to us was not a valid Hazmonah.” Rabbi Kolko does not respond at all. It is of note that Rabbi Yehuda Kolko is still teaching in Yeshiva Torah Temimah while these exchanges are taking place.
· May 4, 2006 – A lawsuit is filed in United States District Court: Eastern District of New York, naming Rabbi Yehuda Kolko; Yeshiva & Mesivta Torah Temimah, Inc. and Camp Agudah as defendants. Rabbi Yehuda Kolko remains in the classrooms of Yeshiva Torah Temimah.
· May 5, 2006 – Rabbi Simcha Kaufman approaches Dovid Framowitz and with tears in his eyes tells him that if only he had known what Rabbi Kolko was doing to him he would have put a stop to it. Of interest was Rabbi Simcha Kaufman’s complete denial of any prior knowledge of any accusation before Dovid Framowitz brought his lawsuit. Rabbi Simcha Kaufman pleads with Dovid to withdraw his lawsuit lest he hurt Rabbi Lipa Margulies and the Yeshiva.
· May 10, 2006 – After being approached for comment on several occasions by Robert Kolker, a reporter for New York Magazine, and with a 5:00 printing deadline looming, Rabbi Lipa Margulies issues a statement through his attorney at 4:30 PM. Beginning with a proclamation that Yeshiva Torah Temimah is the preeminent yeshiva in the world followed by an absolute denial of all the allegations, the statement concludes with an announcement that Rabbi Kolko has agreed to a “leave of absence” pending resolution of this matter. Despite this claim, Rabbi Yehuda Kolko remains in the classrooms of Yeshiva Torah Temimah.
· May 12, 2006 – A second lawsuit is filed in United States District Court: Eastern District of New York naming Rabbi Yehuda Kolko; Yeshiva & Mesivta Torah Temimah, Inc. as defendants. Still, Rabbi Yehuda Kolko remains in the classrooms of Yeshiva Torah Temimah.
· May 15, 2006 – “On the Rabbi’s Knees – Do the Orthodox Jews Have a Catholic Priest Problem” a feature article in New York Magazine, a publication with a circulation of three million, is published. Within days of the publication of the article and after thirty-eight years of committing unspeakable acts of perversion in Yeshiva Torah Temimah, Kolko leaves the classrooms of Yeshiva Torah Temimah. It was only after the magazine hit the newsstands that Margulies succumbed to pressure and removed Kolko from the classrooms of Yeshiva Torah Temimah.
· July 2006 – Over the vocal protest of many residents and with the help of his friend Rabbi Yaakov Applegrad, Rabbi Yehuda Kolko takes up summer residence at a home in Regency Estates in the Catskills. Despite the claim that Kolko was on a leave of absence from Yeshiva Torah Temimah, he continues working for Camp Silver Lake, Yeshiva Torah Temimah’s summer home. In addition, Kolko initiates and organizes a multi-camp excursion to Lake Compounce, a water park located in Connecticut, where he is seen frolicking with young boys in bathing suits. A secular media outcry ensues resulting in Kolko being banned from the park by its non-Jewish management. Astonishingly, in August Kolko organizes a second trip to Lake Compounce, which is attended by the same frum boy’s camps who participated in the July trip.
The above is but a sampling of the cases I am aware of. One need not be a great lamden to realize that I am aware of only a small percentage of Kolko’s abuse victims. As rachmonim bnai rachmonim, it is unbearable to grasp the stunning extent of this catastrophe.
To all who decry the “chillul hashem” the New York Magazine article resulted in, I say; embarrassing, yes. Chillul hashem, absolutely not! Indeed, it is ironic that this very article which has been condemned by many rabbonim is what got you and them to belatedly acknowledge Kolko’s guilt. Apparently a mere forty years of koila d’lo posuk was not enough. Were the lawsuits and the magazine article the chillul hashem? No! The decades long chillul hashem is that of Margulies's and Kolko’s actions coupled with the many decades of improper action and inaction by our rabbonim and organizations. Their chillul hashem was somewhat offset by the recent kiddush hashem of the action taken by a few askonim. They, who had the courage to do what had to be done to protect our children from the acts of monsters and the cowardice of our rabbonim. All this I say with the utmost respect and reverence.
I lay no blame at your doorstep for the above; you come from another part of the world, did not participate in and have no first hand knowledge of these events. I merely ask you to understand the world of pain and destruction that Rabbi Yehuda Kolko and his enablers; with a special note of distinction going to Rabbi Lipa Margulies; have left in their wake. I respectfully question your judgment in showing respect and support for Rabbi Lipa Margulies without having done a thorough investigation of his history. Surely, l'man yishmeu v’yirahu, a man such as Lipa Margulies must be publicly vilified; not cholila v’chas publicly honored by someone of your esteem.
I respectfully submit that despite the focus of your speech, this issue has nothing to do with an obnoxious blogger or kovod haTorah. No reasonable adult takes this blogger’s inane ravings as anything but. That he fell into this issue and “b’mokom she'ain ish” he chose to “hishtadail lehios ish” and participate in pushing it forward, is a sad commentary on the egregious failures of our leadership. Rather, the issue is the still unanswered question of where our leaders were all these decades while Rabbi Yehuda Kolko and Rabbi Lipa Margulies were savaging our children. I ask with the utmost respect and humility; how can you stand in front of us in good faith and turn this into an issue of kovod hatorah? I ask that you hear the constant cries of anguish laden souls destroyed by chronic inaction coupled with a misguided concern for the “dignity” of rabbeim who molest.
This is not a tale of something that somehow “slips through the fingers” but rather only one of many glaring examples of what occurs in a community whose leaders are unwilling to deal with an issue that sits under a spotlight for four decades and engulfs the souls of countless innocent children. Hashem yerachaim.
As parents we have every right to expect that accusations of sexual abuse by a rebbe be first verified post haste and then publicized so that we may protect our children from this predator and make informed decisions about where to send our children to yeshiva. In the face of pikuach nefesh; cries of kovod haTorah, chillul hashem and loshon harah have no relevance. To resort to such cries is simply am ha'haretzes and violates the precept not to be a merachaim al ha'achzoir. The issue all of us need to address, lay people and rabbonim alike, is why nothing was done for so many decades and what lessons we can learn from our past mistakes to prevent future catastrophes of this nature.
Respectfully yours,
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«Oldest ‹Older 401 – 600 of 771 Newer› Newest»Oh, and one more thing, Shafran. If you pay better than Margo, maybe you should consider hiring me. There's no question I have the experience necessary.
Rav Elyashev zol zein gezunt poskened that molesters are rodfim and should be reported to police.
I can understand that Margo doesn't give a crap what anyone says, but why doesn't the "hayligga" Agudah listen to the gadol hador?
You see, lemayseh, Rav Elyashev is much older than the Novominsker. He's a very old man like R' Zelig. So don't forget that Effy Wachsmann got up at the Agudah convention to warn us not to listen to gedolim from previous generations unless the Agudah agrees with it.
What is it you understand then? Don't even think unless the Agudah gives you the go ahead.
http://jewishsurvivors.blogspot.com/2006/12/jewish-whistleblowers-jwb-to.html
To "Simcha Kauffman" above,
To imply that all these accusers of Kolko are out for revenge because he was very strict, is ludicrous. David Framowitz was not his student. Kolko would give him rides to school and the first abuse he reported took place in Koloko's car. You have been seeing too many Oliver Stone movies.
Why are you responding to Simcha Kaufman as if he is mistaken? The calculating pisher doesn't deserve the time of day.
Do you really think that anyone who was at Camp Agudah & YTT all the years doesn't really know what happened?
I felt the need to respond to him because I've been hearing and reading this same nonsense from other apologists.
http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/kolko_ad_4.jpg
Hey chevra, I thought I'd just stop by to say hi.
I am against molestation.
R' Shmuel Dishon threw Kolko out of Stolin.
He is the real "honorable man". He should testify at the trial and make Margo look like the shtick dreck that he is.
I am invincible. I don't care about grand juries & prosecutors. I vill protect da name of my feine yeshiva. It is da best yeshiva. Kolko vill be back in no time. I don't care about any little gurnisht like Feivy Mendlovitz. I am Lipa Margulies and no von tells me vat to do.
We are assisting the federal government in it's investigation into Margo stealing free raisins from the lunch program and selling them for profit.
We got Al Capone on tax evasion charges and we'll get Lipa on Raisins.
Why has there not been enough of an outcry from the frum community up to this point? The answer is politics. The typical RW frum Jew cannot see himself aligned with the likes of Yosef Blau, Mark Dratch, Paul Mendlowitz, Vicki Polin, and Ben Hirsch, on any issue. They feel safer trusting the Agudah rabbis and Rav Belsky. This way they don't have to think for themselves. They let the rabbis do the thinking for them. This is how they've been trained from infancy and this is how it shall remain. It's a shame there are not more Chareidi rabbis like R'Miller zt"l, who can stand up to these fakers and speak the truth. Too much politics.
"The typical RW frum Jew cannot see himself aligned with the likes of ..."
You'd be surprised if you ask around Lakewood, Brooklyn, etc, how many people are fed up with this crap from the Agudah at the last convention and corrupt rabbonim who only care about their own rear end.
We may not be happy with UOJ's kefira in other issues, but he did a tremendous service by bringing down Kolko and other molesters. We are not the two faced fakers like Neuhoff who claim to be "against molestation of any kind" while taking directions from Margo or Shafran on a cell phone. We are guys that learned in all the yeshivos of note: Lakewood, Brisk, Ponivizh, Mir, etc, that aren't fooled into believing what we are directed like robots. We daven that the brick wall of cover ups and corruption comes crumbling down on top of Lipa "Humpty Dumpty" Margulies and any other rosho who facilitates rodfim - molesters are rodfim and according to halocho can be done away with without going to beis din.
Granted, we are dismayed that roshei yeshiva and rabbonim who curse out Kolko and Margulies in private to us, will not do so officially.
Torah Temimah spin machine is speading the word that the latest victim, the 9 year old, is a "troubled" child.
I have heard this on the street and was repulsed.
They will never learn their lesson. The sad thing is that many people will believe them.
Very typical. You can say all the right things to your friends in private, or write it anonymously on a blog. But when it comes to publicly disagreeing with the likes of the Agudah, you all chicken out.
Of course he is a "troubled" child. He was molested by his rebbe.
Why has there not been enough of an outcry from the frum community up to this point? The answer is politics. The typical RW frum Jew cannot see himself aligned with the likes of Yosef Blau, Mark Dratch, Paul Mendlowitz, Vicki Polin, and Ben Hirsch, on any issue. They feel safer trusting the Agudah rabbis and Rav Belsky. This way they don't have to think for themselves. They let the rabbis do the thinking for them. This is how they've been trained from infancy and this is how it shall remain. It's a shame there are not more Chareidi rabbis like R'Miller zt"l, who can stand up to these fakers and speak the truth. Too much politics.
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Fievy, stop trying to make yourself relevant.
"Torah Temimah spin machine is speading the word that the latest victim, the 9 year old, is a "troubled" child"
OF COURSE HE'S TROUBLED!!! Wouldn't all of us be if we were forced to hold Kolko's petzel?
To Yitzchak Katz,
I personally drew the ire of 3 roshei yeshiva when I started speaking up against Tendler & Kolko. Two of them have since come around and agree with me privately. The third one no longer argues that Kolko is innocent but still does not like that I speak up.
We are too far away from Har Sinai to find roshei yeshiva who would fiercely come out against Margulies and have his "yeshiva" shut down and put Kolko behind bars.
We once knew such gedolim in America. R' Moishe Feinstein wouldn't put up with this garbage. Rav Mendlowitz & R' Yaakov Yosef Herman would fight it with all their koyach. R' Zelig Epstein knows what to do but he is frail and barely can get around with his heart condition, zol zein gezunt.
But no, we have to be subjected to this sanctimonious crap from Wachsmann at the Agudah convention that they will tell us which gedolim to listen to.
Moshiach zolt shoyn kummen.
http://www.canonist.com/?p=1260
The latest rubbish from Steven Weiss on Kolko & UOJ
TRWFJ,
If you publicly spoke out against Kolko and Tendler, then you are in no way "typical". Yasher koach to you and may there be many more like you.
Why is it that the same rabbonim who would not dare speak out publicly against MArgo/Kolko because they may embarrass him and his family had no problem ripping Finkel when the Kashrus scandla broke?
They have nothing to lose & everything to gain if they rip Moish Finkel.
It's bad PR & politically incorrect if they go after a yeshiva because someone could then target them.
Self interest in the guise of virtue is a vice.
You can quote me on that.
Moishe Pippick circa 2006
I want names. Let's blow this whole thing open right now. Which Rabbis have recently come out against Kolko, YTT, Coverups or anything like that?
Resolution Regarding Members Accused of Improprieties
Adopted by the Rabbinical Council of America
May 28, 2003
http://www.rabbis.org/
WHEREAS, in recent years there have been reported a number of incidents of sexual, physical and/or emotional abuse perpetrated by rabbis and teachers, including members of the Rabbinical Council of America, against members of the communities that they serve and others, adults and children, in violation of Torah law and of civil law; and
WHEREAS, failure to respond to such cases is a violation of the verse, "Thou shalt not stand idly by the blood of your neighbor" (Lev. 19:16; see Hilkhot Rotseiach 1: 14); and
WHEREAS, it is the duty of the Rabbinical Council of America to protect the integrity and welfare of the members of the community that its members serve; to serve and help its members in times of crisis; to represent to the community the best of Torah values; and to protect the dignity of Torah and Orthodox Judaism; and
WHEREAS, events of the past have proven, to our great dismay, that organizations and individuals have not always dealt with these incidents in the best possible way; and
WHEREAS, rabbis must conduct themselves in ways that are exemplary in their religious, moral and interpersonal conduct, not only because of their personal obligations that are governed by the Torah and the Halachah, but in fulfillment of the ideal of ahavat Hashem, "And you shall love the Lord your God: that the Name of Heaven be beloved because of you" (Yoma 86a)., an obligation that calls upon each Jew to conduct himself/herself in ways that reflect nobly on the Torah and God, and to refrain from any improper conduct in all areas including, but not limited to, sexual, personal, and economic behaviors; and
WHEREAS, the verse, "And you shall be guiltless before the Lord and before Israel."(Numbers 32:22) extends the concerns of conduct to mar'it ayin and heshad, suspicious behaviors, and places a higher responsibility on personal and professional conduct of all Jews, especially rabbis; and
WHEREAS, improper behavior can cause a hillul Hashem, a desecration of God's Name, a transgression that it is more difficult to atone for than for any other sin, so that not even repentance, the atonement of Yom Kippur, and personal suffering can absolve one of this offense (Yoma 86a); and
WHEREAS, the Halachah recognizes that an adam hashuv (a prominent person) is held to a standard of behavior and morality higher than that to which others are held and must refrain from any improper behavior, even if not explicitly prohibited or illegal, lest he cause a hillul Hashem, a desecration of God's Name. An adam hashuv, a well-known and well-respected person, and a talmid hakham, a pious, learned scholar, are expected by others to live according to strict moral standards-therefore, the greater the desecration when they fail to live up to these expectations. Their failures reflect negatively not only upon their personal reputations, but upon the Torah that they claim to uphold and upon the God they represent. Among others, these behaviors include embarrassing one's colleagues due to the nature of the rumors that are spread about him (Yoma 86a), embarrassing one's colleagues by the less-than-dignified activities in which he engages (Rosh to Moed Katan, ch. 3, no. 11) and degrading the honor of Torah (Pesahim 49a); and
WHEREAS, the Mishnah, Avot 4:4, reminds us that sequestering a hillul Hashem will always be unsuccessful: "Whoever desecrates the name of Heaven in private will ultimately be punished in public, whether the desecration was committed unintentionally or intentionally." Hence, a conspiracy to conceal information about abuse will ultimately be made public, creating an even greater hillul Hashem; and
WHEREAS, the Talmud, Berakhot 19b, posits, "Wherever a profanation of God's Name is involved no respect is paid to a rabbi"; and
WHEREAS, R. Akiva explained the biblical verse, "And you shall love your friend as yourself (Lev. 19:18)" by positing, "What is hateful to you, do not do to your friend." (Shabbat 31a), we are obligated to respect and protect the integrity, welfare and dignity (kevod ha-beriyot) of our fellow humans;
THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT:
The Rabbinical Council of America condemns in the strongest terms any act of sexual, physical or emotional violence, abuse or impropriety, perpetrated by any of its members against any child or adult and declares to all victims that the abuse is the responsibility and sin of the abuser and is not the responsibility or sin of the victim; and
The Rabbinical Council of America recommits itself to fulfilling its responsibility for the welfare of the members of the Jewish community at large and the general community as well, especially to those who have been victims or who claim to be victims of an act of sexual, physical or emotional violence, abuse or impropriety; and
The Rabbinical Council of America commits itself to reevaluating its policies and procedures in cases of accusations of acts of violence, abuse or impropriety made against any of its members and to develop and enact, in a timely manner but no later than June 30, 2004, those policies and procedures that will effectively and responsibly respond to accusations made against any of its members including:
• a reevaluation of the role and function of the Vaad Hakavod;
• the adoption of standards, policies and procedures for the reprimand and censure of members of the Rabbinical Council of America, as well as provisions and procedures for the suspension and revocation of membership;
• the adoption of provisions for reporting convicted or admitted abusers to the Placement Committee so that they will be prevented from assuming positions that will place others in possibly harmful situations as well as to develop responsible means to identify abusers to those communities or institutions to which they may move;
• the development of plans to help members who have been involved in improper behavior find appropriate therapeutic support, as well as the development of procedures to help the families and congregants of these members deal with the very trying circumstances they face;
• the education of rabbis in proper conduct in interacting with others as well as in ways to being falsely accused of improper behavior. We are also concerned about the possibility of a false accusation made against a member and commit ourselves to develop means to evaluate the veracity of an accusation and to help and support a rabbi who is falsely accused. We recognize the great difficulties involved in evaluating an accusation and in determining its veracity. The Rabbinical Council of America commits itself, in developing these new procedures, to proceed with careful and responsible deliberation in developing guidelines for investigating and trying to determine the validity of accusations; to take into account the issues of confidentiality as it applies both to the accuser and the accused; to respect the need for integrity and timeliness in the investigative process; and to consult with such professionals as lawyers and psychologists, as well as with victims and their families who can contribute in many significant and important ways in formulating and executing these policies.
• The Rabbinical Council of America maintains that reporting acts or suspicions of child abuse is not mesirah* and commits itself and its members to reporting acts or suspicions of child abuse as required by civil law; and
The Rabbinical Council of America recommits itself and its members:
• to assert responsible leadership in publicly condemning acts of sexual, physical and emotional violence, abuse and impropriety and in formulating
• * to execute educational materials and programs that will educate its rabbis and lay persons in the areas of sexual, physical and emotional violence, abuse and impropriety,
• to execute procedures and policies that will safely, sensitively and effectively protect the members of the community from violence, abuse and impropriety,
• to deal appropriately with its members who have perpetrated such violence, abuse or impropriety; and
The Rabbinical Council of America urges its members to assert responsible leadership in their individual synagogues, schools, organizations and communities in publicly condemning acts of sexual, physical and emotional violence, abuse and impropriety and
• in formulating and executing educational materials and programs in their synagogues, schools, organizations and communities that that will educate the members of their institutions and organizations in the areas of sexual, physical and emotional violence, abuse and impropriety.
• to establish and execute procedures and policies in their individual communities that will safely, sensitively and effectively protect the members of those communities, synagogues and schools from violence, abuse and impropriety, including the proper training and education of all staff members and the publishing of guidelines for acceptable behavior as well as guidelines for the reporting of suspicions and acts of inappropriate behavior, and guidelines for effectively dealing with those reports; and
• The Rabbinical Council of America commends those organizations and individuals that have raised these important issues in our community; that have developed programs that have helped victims of violence and abuse to acquire therapeutic, psychological and legal help; that have furthered public awareness of these issues; and that have furthered the physical safety, emotionally integrity and spiritual well-being of individuals and of our community at large.
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Endnote:
1. Arukh HaShulhan maintains that mesirah was prohibited because of the nature of autocratic governments under which Jews lived throughout much of our history. Such informing often led to dangerous persecution of the entire Jewish Community. He posits that this injunction no longer applies in those communities in which the government is generally fair and non-discriminatory. (Arukh HaShulhan, Hoshen Mishpat 388:7. This source is cited authoritatively by Rabbi Gedalia Dov Schwartz in "The Abused Child: Halakhic Insights." Ten Da'at, Sivan 5748. p. 12). Accordingly, it is obligatory in the Western world today to inform the civil authorities about individuals who abuse others.
2. The prohibition of mesirah applies only when testimony assists civil authorities in illegally obtaining the money of another Jew, not when it aids a non-Jewish government in fulfilling such rightful duties as collecting taxes and punishing criminals. When, however, the information concerns the criminal activities of a fellow Jew - as long as the Jewish criminal has also violated a Torah law, and even if the punishment will be more severe than the Torah prescribes (RaN to Sanhedrin 46a) - the ban of mesirah does not apply. (Rabbi Herschel Schachter, "Dina deMalchuso, Dina,"Journal of Halachah and Contemporary Society, I, p. 118.)
3. Even should one hold that the prohibition of mesirah is relevant today, reporting child abusers to civil authorities is nevertheless mandatory. According to Rema, even when the prohibition of mesirah is in force, "a person who attacks others should be punished. If the Jewish authorities do not have the power to punish him, he must be punished by the civil authorities." (Hoshen Mishpat 338:7 and Shakh, no. 45. See also Gloss of Rema to Hoshen Mishpat 338:9.) Our Batei Din today have neither the power nor the authority to handle such matters.
4. Shulhan Arukh rules that the prohibition of mesirah restricts an individual who is being harassed from making a report to the civil authorities. However, when there is a meitzar hatzibbur (public menace), mesirah is permissible. (Hoshen Mishpat 338:12, see Shakh, no. 59 and Gra no. 71.) Child abusers and molesters clearly endanger the welfare of many children with whom they have contact. (Rabbi Waldenberg quoted in Nishmat Avraham, Vol. IV, p. 209.)
5. See Rabbi Michael Broyde, "Mesirat Meida al Avaryanim lidei ha-Shiltonot be-Artzot ha-Berit," Hadarom, vol. 72-73, Elul 5762, pp. 7-38; p. 37, note 90.
http://theunorthodoxjew.blogspot.com/2006/05/thoughtful-measured-uoj-or-uoj-on.html
Rabbi Mark Dratch said...
How Does Jewish Law Define Sexual Abuse?
Rabbi Mark Dratch
www.JSafe.org
There are things that should go without saying that nevertheless need to be said, and said loudly! There are recent and widespread reports that a certain prominent Jewish religious authority dismissed allegations of sexual abuse against a rabbi and teacher because according to Jewish law there was no abuse. The report claims that this prominent posek ruled that since there was no genital penetration by the alleged perpetrator there was no abuse.
I do not know if this report is factual. I do know that the ruling is NOT consistent with Jewish law. One does not need a Code of Law to forbid such acts; they are inherently repulsive and repugnant (Rambam, Shemoneh Perakim, ch. 6). But one does not have to search far and wide in Jewish legal literature itself in order to find the forbidden nature of these activities that seem to have been dismissed so cavalierly. Failure to speak out against the misrepresentation of Jewish law would be a violation of the biblical injunction to “Keep far from a false matter (Ex. 23:7)” (Shevu’ot 30b-31a) and would render one guilty of being megaleh panim ba-Torah she-lo ke-Halakhah—rendering an interpretation of the Torah not according to Halakhah (Avot 3:11, Sanhedrin 99a).
1. Although penetration may be required to render an intimate act occurring between a man and woman to be adultery, with all of its pursuant consequences (Rambam, Issurei Bi’ah 1:10; Shulhan Arukh, Even ha-Ezer 20:1), or to render an intimate act occurring between two men to be considered an act of homosexuality, with all of its pursuant consequences (Rambam, Issurei Bi’ah 1:14), nevertheless sexualized contact of any kind between ineligible partners (and that certainly includes a teacher and his students!), including kissing and fondling, is forbidden and is subject to punishment according to Jewish law (Shulhan Arukh, Even ha-Ezer 20:1), either biblically or rabbinically (See Bet Shmuel and Helkat Mehokek).
2. Jewish law forbids intentional self arousal and illicit thoughts. It even forbids a number of benign activities that may bring about sexual stimulation. (Shulhan Arukh, Even ha-Ezer 23:3,4,6,7) Certainly Halakhah forbids explicit activities that are inherently sexualized and whose very intent is to offer the perpetrator sexual arousal and pleasure!
3. The Talmud, Sanhedrin 75a, records and Rambam, Hil. Yesodei ha-Torah 5:9, codifies the following story that supports the contention that any sexualized behavior or interaction between those that fall into the category of arayot (forbidden sexual partners) is prohibited: “Rav Yehudah said in Rav's name: A man once conceived a passion for a certain woman and his heart was consumed by his burning desire (even to the point of his life being endangered.) When the doctors were consulted, they said, “His only cure is that she shall submit (to him sexually).” Thereupon the Sages said: “Let him die rather than that she should yield.” Then [the doctors said]; “let her stand nude before him.” [The Sages answered,] “Sooner let him die.” Said the doctors, “Let her (at least) converse with him from behind a fence.” The Sages replied, “Let him die rather than she should converse with him from behind a fence.”
4. Jewish law prohibits emotional assault and abuse. Victims of abusers—even those that do not penetrate them—live with the memories of the abuse for a lifetime and often suffer PTSD and suffer from psychological and emotional distress. The verse, “You shall not wrong one another; but you shall fear your God; for I am the Lord your God” (Lev. 25:17) prohibits emotional distress (Baba Metzi’a 58a). This is referred to as ona’at devarim (verbal wronging) and includes any speech or activity which maliciously attacks another’s sense of self (Rashi to Lev. 25:17) or causes emotional or psychological pain. (Rashi, Baba Metzi’a 59b, s.v. hutz; Rambam, Sefer ha-Mitzvot, no. 251).
5. Abusers also violate “And you shall love your neighbor as yourself” (Lev. 19:18) and “What is hateful to you, do not to your neighbor.” (Shabbat 31a ).
6. Such behavior is clearly a hillul Hashem, a desecration of God’s Name. No civilized society would accept such treatment of their children! Suggesting that the Torah permits such abuse causes people to say: “Woe unto him who studied the Torah; woe unto his father who taught him Torah; woe unto his teacher who taught him Torah! This man studied the Torah: Look, how corrupt are his deeds, how ugly his ways; of him Scripture says: ‘In that men said of them, “These are the people of the Lord, and are gone forth out of His land”.’” (Yoma 86a) Can it be that the very children that the Jewish people brought as our guarantors at the time of the receiving of the Torah (Shir Ha-Shirim Rabba 1:3) should be sacrificed, abandoned and abused by that very Torah?
7. These acts are a clear violation of the Torah’s warning to refrain from sexual impropriety and other forms of immorality that define decadent and depraved societies: “After the doings of the land of Egypt, where you dwelt, shall you not do; and after the doings of the land of Canaan, where I bring you, shall you not do; nor shall you walk in their ordinances. You shall do My judgments, and keep my ordinances, to walk with them; I am the Lord your God.” (Lev. 18:3-4)
Musmach of BMG Lakewood said...
Thank you to Rabbi Dratch, rov of Agudas Sholom in Stamford, CT, (editor's note: he now lives in West Hempstead) for outlining several issurim that child abusers are guilty of.
If I may, I would like to add to his list.
Poskim have determined that suffering severe emotional trauma is a form of misa, so I believe it's fair to apply Lo Sirtzach and Vechai Achicha Imach.
Lo Yosif pen yosif
Genayva of future potential and happiness. The Chofetz Chaim pointed out that there are certain types of genayva that are much more chomur because they can never be repaid.
Maysis umaydiach if the child stumbles in frumkeit.
Lifnei Iver lo sitain michshol
ATTORNEY JEFFREY HERMAN IS IN NEW YORK MEETING WITH ADDITIONAL KOLKO VICTIMS AND WITNESSES!
If you are a Kolko victim, or a person that has relevant information regarding this crime, or perhaps a witness, I urge you to contact Jeffrey Herman Esq. immediately for a personal& confidential meeting!
Jeff can be reached at : 305-409-7371 or via e-mail: jherman@hermanlaw.com.
Comments made of 7/06 that many Regency Homeowners protested is untrue. One Homeowner in fact discussed the issue prior to the summer and two discussed it during the summer.
Rabbi Applegrad never helped the Rabbi with keeping his rental at Regency. In fact he even avoids looking or talking to him in public.
Blogs are far from emes - get your facts straight whoever you are.
Not to say that if he is proven guilty he should be punished and until then kept away from children which has been the case during the summer at Regency.
If Tuvya discussed the issue with all of his bungalow mates then why should we believe that folks at Regency weren't talking about it? Besides, who are you - the freaking NSA, that you know what everyone is talking about?
Hey Schmucks, I was in Regency this past summer, and I can tell you that many people there believe Kolko is innocent and said good shabbos to him like nothing happened. Why not get on the guy who rents his unit to Kolko?
Which YTT staffer posted that nonesense about Regency? Kolko was there for one specific purpose. To put him in the closest proximity to Silver Lake as possible so he could tip toe over and resume whatever he did in previous summers. Except this time, it was all unofficial, since Margo had already lied to the public that Kolko was "on leave".
UOJ said he had specific information that Applegrad used his connections to shtup Kolko in with those Hungarian jerks at Regency. I believe that much quicker than the scatterbrain post at 10:30 PM IST.
As far as Tuvya, does anyone know which colony that drek-for-brains goes to?
Now let's get back to the pressing issue of getting Kolko & Margo locked up.
This letter to Rav Salomon could only have been written by Ben Hirsch.
Most of the comments are probably his, too.
Kolko & Margo destroyed the lives of over 100 children and he's still worried about who is commenting about it.
Get a life, LOSER.
A fellow by the name of Sam just posted on the Canonist Blog that Jeff Herman just arrived in NY to interview new victims and witnesses that have emerged.
And isn't it odd that someone would criticize Jeff Herman over jurisdiction? He is a shomer Torah & mitzvos Jew who truly cares about the victims. Why should he be excluded if he's from outside the state line?
You want local lawyers only you putz? You should know that they can be abysmal failures like Aron Twerski and all the lawyers on the Vaad Hahorim of YTT.
Someone wrote...
This letter to Rav Salomon could only have been written by Ben Hirsch.
It is known that Ben Hirsch is good friends with Tsartis. He even co-signed his loan. Tsartis probably gave him all the information for that letter. I have heard that some of it is right, but some is wrong. The part of frolicking at Lake Compounce is definitely made up
Alright folks. Is there anyone who in their right frame of mind that still believes Rabbi Yehuda Kolko is innoccent of all charges? Is it still just people after kolko for no appearent reason? Get your act together people, this is the start of the big downfall for kolko, margulis, and many more reshoim gedolim. Say no to child abuse. Say no to coverups of the abuse. say enough of the Rabbi Mattisyou solomon "isolated" "slipped through the fingers defense". Say no to perverting justice. Say no to perverting the torah.
Say no to EVIL. And say yes to JUSTICE.
tell us more about the vaad hahorim, I heard about it and know somebody on it, but due to the sensitive and taboo nature of the subject I never found out much about who they are and what they found and who they 'investigated' to find it.
Watch me on CNN with Nancy Grace tonight.
I will be wearing my hat and jacket - with the shatnez label showing of course. I wouldn't want anyone to be choshed me of anything bad, y'know;)
Can anyone confirm if Ben Hirsch is involved in this?
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/nancy.grace/index.html
Someone posted the CNN rumor on False Messiah too. CNN says her show tonight is about a Queens couple who vanished on the way back from Myrtle Beach. It says nothing about Kolko.
http://yudelstake.blogspot.com/2006/09/shatnez-in-monsey-yes-its-worse-than.html
http://yudelstake.blogspot.com/2006/11/shatnez-in-monsey-shevach-style-scene.html
Yudi Kolko's shaatnez label must have been from Monsey. To find out why, check out these two posts from Rabbi Shain's blog on another scandal that's being covered up, or at least the Agudah is not very vocal about it.
Why is everyone picking on me?
http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/failed_messiahcom/2006/12/shafran_must_re.html
December 11, 2006
Shafran Must Resign
In a scathing post, DovBear calls for the resignation of Agudath Israel's top man, Rabbi David Zwiebel, and it's mouthpiece, Rabbi Avi Shafran. Here's why. When asked by email to comment on the arrest of rabbi-on-boy sex abuser Rabbi Yehuda Kolko, Avi Shafran wrote:
Why would we have comment about the arrest of an individual? Because he was an employee, more than 30 years ago, of one of the camps we run (that have had thousands of employees over the years)? I don’t think that requires comment on our part. We are not even a party anymore to any lawsuit filed against the accused, as I understand it. The suit of the accuser who included Camp Agudah in his action (John Doe #1) has been dismissed (without prejudice, I believe, so it can still be refiled, but hasn’t been)."
DoveBear responds:
Let's help Avi out. He asks: "Why would we have comment about the arrest of an individual?"
ANSWERS
1 - Because he was an employee, more than 30 years ago, of one of the camps you run! (Credit Avi Shafran himself for that one)
2 - Because men closely associated with your organization have been running interference for him for 25 years.…
DovBear goes on to note that Agudah comments on many issues, from Conservative Judaism's grappling with halakha to the latest in Intelligent Design. Why shouldn't they comment on 40 years of rabbi-on-boy sex abuse within their own community?
The answer is obvious. Many leading Agudah rabbis covered for Kolko. Some of them may be sued. Others may be open for criminal prosecution.
But DovBear raises a good point. Zwiebel and Shafran should both be forced to resign, Shafran for his smug dismissals of abuse and Zwiebel for working against mandatory reporting laws and against a centralized system within haredi schools to track abusers.
If you agree with DovBear's call, please post it on your blogs and shout it from your rooftops. I have.
Tuvya/Chaim Neuhoff belongs to the Riversite bungalow colony, not Regency. And the part about Lake Compounce is all true....and then some. Those YTT idiots tried to pass it off that he's running a "private rental company" of parks.
Where is the Riversite colony (or is it Riverside)? And what kind of crowd goes there? I wonder if Neuhoff (Bungalow Putz Sr.) was lying about his poll results ...
Isn't it amazing how names are so tzugepasst & just stick. UOJ's moniker for Tuvya is a classic.
I heard that Kolko was in Weinfeld's shul this shabbos!
Are any parents pulling their kids out of Torah temimah?
Taken from Hirhurim (Gil Student) blog 9/26/05:
Can a man learn Torah on the subway or bus when there are immodestly dressed women there?
[AS ALWAYS, ASK YOUR RABBI ABOUT PRACTICAL ISSUES]
I. The Problem
One Sunday this past summer, I drove with my family up to "the country" to visit our neighbors (of eruv fame) in the delightful Riversite Bungalow Colony, near South Fallsburg, NY. While there, we discussed -- particularly with R. Dr. Chaim Neuhoff -- whether a man may sit by the swimming pool during men's swimming time and learn Gemara. The issue is twofold. First, one may not learn Torah in a place where people are immodestly dressed (Shabbos 150a). Second, one may not learn Torah in a bathhouse even when everyone there is dressed, because the bathhouse is designated as a place where people are normally undressed.
http://www.playfuls.com/news_10_4973-Rabbi-Accused-of-Multiple-Sexual-Abuse-at-a-Brooklyn-School.html
This story on Kolko is on an English-language news website in Romania. Margo is from Satmar, Romania. I wonder if they know that.
http://www.hbo.com/sopranos/cast/character/feech_lamanna.shtml
Eh, whatsa matta wit Kolko? Dis scumbag molester buys his suits wit da shatnez label from The Garage in Bensonhurst. I'm gonna tella my boys der to take this cafone for a ride down to the river wit cement shoes.
Capeesh ?
http://www.canonist.com/?p=1258#comment-34258
S. Says:
December 8th, 2006 at 4:00 pm
I remember when R. Avi Shafran commented in a full length article about Michael Jackson and Shmuely Boteach a couple of years ago. I suppose that was Agudah business.
Joe Says:
December 9th, 2006 at 7:11 pm
Steve, I think that its important that you compare the Shafran statements on Kolko now to the ones about lanner a few years back in when he could hardly hide his glee that someone in the ou was caught doing such a thing, and how it would never happen with agudah. One also needs to investigate if kolko ever spoke by any agudah function or any agudah convention, to solidify the connection.
Jewish Observer Says:
December 9th, 2006 at 10:56 pm
“One also needs to investigate if kolko ever spoke by any agudah function or any agudah convention, to solidify the connection. ”
from rumous I heard, the Camp Agudah head counselor is very nervous / rueful about his role in keeping Kolko on after multiple complaints. Could be shafran still has Agudah to protect here, so is just doing his job.
IS the Lakewood story referenced above about the individual that wears nothing underneath his rain coat and loves to show that to little frum girls?
To Rabbi Ginzberg:
I think its time to stop the games. We really don't need you to state the obvious that child molestation is bad.
We do need you to stop avoiding the issue whether your Rebbi -- Rabbi Scheinberg -- aborted a bais din proceeding some twenty odd years ago by telling victims of Kolko that since there was no penetration they were not molested.
Did he give such a psak or not. Thats the only relevant question here.
If he did give such a psak he needs to publicly recant that psak and ask mechilah brabim from the victims he misled.
Your attempts to preserve his reputation by ducking the issue are see through. People want to know the emes at this point. Nothing less will do. You think people are fooled because Torah ohr made him guest of honor. Or because his picture has been in the Yated 50 times. Do you really think were all so stupid.
Sorry. Either address the issue or don't bother commenting with these fluff posts that deliberately skirt the real issue.
The Lakewood story concerns child abuse at a play group run by a BT and his wife. The kids were abused by an adult from the outside, who was said to be an English kollel guy. The BT family had all the blame directed at them and suffered all kinds of abuse from the establishment & the public. They are still shuldiks for being asleep at the wheel when they are supposed to keep a close watch, but they didn't deserve to be driven out of town and have their lives destroyed, when the real molester was untouched because of a cover up conspiracy. Someone actually died a misa meshunne after an assault on them. The true story here that you won't get from R' Mattisyahu's version of events is mamash terrible. This is not a rishus on the Mashgiach's part because he has been misled by someone else. Considering he has been in the UK most of his life and seemingly knows nothing about Kolko or any other case. I think it's high time he handed the task of commenting on scandals to someone else.
This is to much Lashon Haroh and R'chilus, even for a chashivu yunferman as myself.
I also have no time to learn in order keep up with all the blogs and scams going on. I ask everyone in K'lal Yisrael to please give it a 2 week break, As we know time heals everything.
Sincerely,
A part time masmid.
does anyone in lakewood YTT know about what's going on? Oh of course not they had to sign a paper that says they don't have internet or tv- wake up the real monsters are running your school!
http://avishafranspeaks.blogspot.com/
Unreal how you people will talk and talk and talk and in the end, do nothing.
The Meiri in his Hakdomo to Avos explains the mesorah of Torah of all generations after the Anshei Knesess Hagdolah, Antignos Ish Socho was the last undisputed lone Manhig , and Gadol Nosie & Rosh Yeshiva all in one.
After that the Nosie & Rosh Yeshiva was split by the pairs in the Mishnayos, which follow.
In the first Perek [3] there is a quote frequently used by Antignos Ish Socho. In Mishna [11] four generations later Avtalion [as the commentators say in reference to the above quote of Antignos] would always quote “Wise men be careful with your language, lest you will be guilty of exile, & you will be exiled to the place of the bad waters, & the disciples who come after you will drink, and perish & the name of heaven will be defamed.
What happened? 4 generations had passed, there were 2 disciples of Antignos, who had not understood the holy words, Tzadok & Baysus & had started a new movement, which had infected the whole nation.
This made Avtalion aware that even a last undisputed Manhig & Gadol of a generation almost beyond his Hasagot, should have been more careful what he said how he said it & to whom he said, not Chas Vesholom that he was wrong. So much so that Avtalion would repeat his own very measured motto over & over.
There is a known Kabala that one can be Medayik in every word of a Rishon, up until the Marsho, how mush more so in the words of Avtalion & how much more in the words he would repeat over & over & how much more so in his motto, about measuring your words.
Let us indulge where does the bad water go? Let us borrow a phrase “to the gutter” Antignos Ish Socho the last one to carry our whole mesorah alone was talking to the wise men of all generations including Reb Matisyahu, and with his Ruach Hakodesh, and very measured words he spoke about the place of the bad water the gutter, he was telling Reb Matisyahu think, investigate, research, use due diligence before using the word gutter, on the children who slipped between your fingers before telling them to stand up for the people who sent them to the gutter, because they don’t get the dais at the Agudah Convention to let you know what is paining them, you have let us fall into the gutter to get our message over.
Let us go to these weeks Parsha, the story of Tomor & Yehuda, what did Tomor do to get her very important message over to Yehuda? The Torah tells us that Tomor knew the future of Klall Yisroel was dependent oh her off spring together with Yehuda, and out of the biggest desperation she had to lower herself all the way down to make it happen. So she dressed up anonymously, and went to the worst gutter possible the place where the biggest shmutz exists, the place where the prostitutes go to get over the most important message on which the future of Klall Yisroel Exists.
Today I would say that place is the internet it is the gutter, where the biggest prostitutes go, so to us broken hearted children who slipped through your fingers, and you tell us we have no recourse and we are not to be honored, but we are to honor those who let us fall in to the gutter . We are not Chas Vesholom as you called us in your unmeasured words which have caused such outrage and undue defamation of the name of heaven, as Antignos warned you. We are in this gutter because that is our podium to get over a very important message to you who claim to be our Manhigim, and have only began to hear our heartbroken cries from this very gutter, we are worried about how your very unfortunate negligence that will allow one Tzadok or Baysus or in the days of The Chofetz Chaim one Trotzky to emerge from a child who unfortunately slipped through your fingers, and your answer to him was honor the very people who allowed you to slip through.[ The word fingers in this case was also unmeasured].
How could we allow one Yiddish Neshoma to be lost, how could we condone the loss of even one Neshoma, and not accept guilt, we have had to come to the blogs, and anonymously get our message over. Make no mistake that we all know what the internet is, that no Rabbi could give a Hechsher even to one site, because one cannot put a Mashgiach tmididi on even one site, & it would be tantamount & worse, than giving a Hechsher to Shevach’s meats in Monsey. [Just an example, in no way do I imply anything against the Rav Hamachshir over there.]
We call out from this gutter to you Reb Matisyahu & the ones who you told us to revere “: Haker No L’mi Hachosemes Vhapsilim Hoeleh,” who edged us in to the gutter so that we could convey this message to you.
We are waiting to see if you are real Manhigim, and will come down like Yehuda and say to Tzodko Mimeni, we are the responsible we let you fall in to the gutter. If you come down of your come down you will be fit for Malchus.
Believe me a public U-turn is no easy thing, but the future Klall Yisroel depends on it, take an example from a contemporary of yours, one of those who unfortunately is not so recognized in our circles. Reb Joel Kahn, who spent many years preaching his Rebbe, was Mashgiach. He was the Rosh Yeshiva, and the most revered person in Chabad, besides being know as great Torah scholar a former Chavrusah & close friend of Reb Shomka Berman OB”M. He got up and said the Maamar Toisi I made a mistake this cost him his job his carrier, his respect, and almost his life, but Kovod Shomayim, and the future of Klall Yisroel are more important to him.
Moshe Rabeinu was from the Levi tribe, he was not slave in Egypt, but a Yeshiva Student learning Torah. Never the less, he went out to his brothers who were slaves in the gutter of mem tes shaarei tumah, and he saw that suffering & why they had fallen to gutter, it hurt him so much he had to give up his Torah learning & help. He was then called to be the big speaker, and representative, by no less than the Divine call, but out of such humbleness’ he said , who am I, I am a an Aral Sefosaim, when people had complaints Moshe & Aaron said Venachnu Moh, who are we. Those are the traits of a Manhig.
When Shaul Hamelech felt he had to correct something in Mridah bemalchus, he didn’t say Droshos he didn’t call his army, like any king would it says Vayotz Hamelech b’raglov, and the king ran on his own feet, by himself no carriage no chaperones.
By Dovid Hamelech, a very Choshuv Yid, cursed him with a very Gutter curse, which was very offensive, what did he say, I must need a tikun, G-d told him to curse me.
When people curse the Manhigim from the gutter, with some times even very profane language, you don’t know how Choshuv they may be; they may even be the Shimi Ben Geiro’s of our Dor, although They may get punished, the reaction of a true Manhig is, HOLOKIM Omar Loi Kallel, we as Manhigim need a tikun.
Now let me get a little personal, to you Manhigim, when were you Mevatel your Torah learning, or you speeches to go out on your own feet to your brothers in the gutter anonymously?
How easy are you accessible to them, do you not realize that if a heart operation is not done immediately, the patient may die?
Let me as one of your victims from this gutter suggest to all of you who claim to be our Manhigim, to stop your unmeasured speeches, and public showings, to sit down & calculate how many [people in a one mile vicinity of your home, may have fallen in to the gutter, some you may be personally guilty about, compile a list, of those hurting divorcees, singles, unemployed, poor, widows & orphans, to whom you have never lifted a phone to them, let alone, gone on your feet to visit them. Please go out & visit them, listen to their cries & why they are crying. Tul Korah Mibein Einecha, the beam is blocking you eyesight, reconcile with us gutter boys who slipped between your fingers.
Open me an opening like the eye of a needle, and I will open one unto you like the opening of a big hall. After you have gone a mile on your feet you find you could got 2, 3, and finally reach out to 600,000 brothers like Moshe Rabeinu.
Please you people who tell us Musar listen to our Musar even though we are calling from the gutter, because that is our only stage.
The Vilna Gaon was humble enough to call the Dubna Magid to give him Musar; the difference between you & me [the Gutter Boy] is a lot less than the Gaon of Vilna and the Dubna Magid.
I beg you one more time from the depth of my heart if you are real Manhigim rise up & say Toisi Tzodko Mimeni, Hoelokim omar loi Kallel, go out on your feet, and see our suffering we are not Leitzim & Maskilim, but very hurt individuals calling from the gutter for the future of our nation. Many of us will be the tachtonim Lemaloh in the world to come, do what is right, and you maybe merited over there to hear my speech live. For now as explained above I justifiably remain anonymous.
The avos of our generation are so detached from us let us all rise & say the Pesukim, Hinei Onoichi….Eiyahu Hanovie .. Velev Bonim al Avoisom.
Our nation has fallen to the gutter & we need a Manhig like Moshe, we are promised like the days of our exit from Egypt e will see wonders, Let us get up and say one more Posuk together. Hoishio es amecha… uraim Venaseim Ad Haolam.
From the gutter I composed this myself, look who you have left in the gutter.
It goes on much longer, but I shortened if there is enough interest you could make another blog out of it, and I may add the rest to the comments.
Vani Tefilah that my shmoose reaches Reb Matisyahu, and all those that should hear it.
Beautiful! Fix the grammer, spelling and missed characters and u have a masterpiece fit for even the Moetzes to be made to read before every meeting.
I mixed up,Antignos & Avtalyon twicw, Mohiach & Mashgiach, but all darshonim do that not bad for my first time, as for the grammer after twenty odd years in the gutter, where slang is our language, i think you will have to help me fix it.
I don't understand how parents continue to send their children to YTT. They should rename the school SHAARE SHEKER! When the director of the school looks directly into the camera and lies outright saying that no parents ever complained about Kolko, isn't that sending a message to the parents that they don't count? These are the same parents that for three and a half decades devotedly delivered their kids to the Molech as part of their initiation.
Just run it through MS Word, then cut and paste it to the blog. It makes it more respectable and readers can then print it and mail it to MattiBoy Solomon at his home address which someone posted earlier.
Word on the street is that the latest victim is troubled and the parents are problem people.
I wonder where this disinformation is coming from!!!!!!
Why is UOJ reposting old posts? Is this UOJ rerun season?
Word on the street is that the latest victim is troubled and the parents are problem people.
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Most victims become messed up after being molested.
Anonymous said...
Word on the street is that the latest victim is troubled and the parents are problem people.
As soon as they get the 10 million, they wont be problem people any more. Ante up, Lipa Bachie, dee shtik drek.
To anonymous 9:56 PM, thank you for the idea, but do understand this is not my own blog. Are you telling me to set up a new blog, for the more respectable comments?
http://the-gutter-rabbi.blogspot.com/
Any bets on how the Jewish Press reports the Kolko story?
An Anonymous Flier (Pashkevil) In Brooklyn
By: Editorial Board Wednesday, February 22, 2006
An anonymously written flier mailed recently to many Jewish homes in Brooklyn, containing lurid accusations of improper conduct against an individual in our community and railing against his employer for not firing him, should be taken as a serious warning of a cancer growing in our midst. The flier not only offers no substantiation of the charges themselves, but also reports uncorroborated – and, it turns out, vigorously denied – comments from the employer, which the flier’s unknown author offers as proof of a cover-up.
The mere circulation of the document has caused some, albeit limited, discussion as to the culpability of both the accused individual and the employer – this despite the lack of any evidence or the possibility of any follow-up with the accuser. But if even one person takes this sort of thing seriously, there is cause for concern. Compounding the problem is that the purveyor of this material seems fully at home with the Internet and has spread it anonymously on that medium as well, guaranteeing that it will be seen by all that many more people, both within and without the Jewish community.
Anonymous accusers effectively destroying their targets’ reputations, even before the truthfulness of the accusations are ascertained, cannot be the way of Klal Yisrael – and indeed has never been. Certainly it accords neither with halacha nor with common sense. It is precisely for this reason that for millennia we have invariably insisted that those making claims against another take the accused to a bet din in order to determine the facts and, if necessary, the halacha.
On another level, it is hardly engaging in hyperbole to suggest that if the notion takes root that an anonymous purveyor of unsubstantiated charges can get peoples’ tongues wagging, then none of us can count ourselves safe. It will enable anyone to exercise devastating power at any time and under any circumstances simply by choosing to do so, for whatever motive.
It was doubtless inadvertent, but the author of the flier makes our point. Thus, the flier recites that "this mailing should not have been necessary," inasmuch as the target and his employer were warned in advance that if the individual either resigned or was fired, "th[e] mailing would be stopped." And on the Internet, the author has declared to one and all that he is about to "uncover" others if they do not accede to his demands. Plainly, this individual is engaged in an effort to fashion a weapon with which to impose his will on Klal Yisrael.
But it is not the excesses of one individual that are of primary concern. As a general proposition, before we even begin thinking about anyone’s having gone astray, we must have more to go on than mere innuendo and accusation flung about by nameless, faceless sources. It is incumbent upon each of us to resolve to give no credence to unproven charges and to urge their being discredited on a community-wide basis. That’s something that certainly should apply to this particular anonymous accuser.
We would also remind readers that President Bush recently signed into law a statute making it illegal for any person to use the Internet to post anonymous accusations designed to inflict pain and suffering on others. In this instance the anonymous accuser should be aware that if identified, he runs the risk of fine and imprisonment for violation of a federal statute.
To:
"Anonymous said...
Can anyone confirm if Ben Hirsch is involved in this?"
Who is Ben Hirsch?
Upon leaving jail Friday night, Yiddy Kolko took a deep breath, held his arms out wide and said, "I feel like a little kid again."
UOJ RESPONDS TO THE JEWISH PRESS
Dear Rabbi Klass and the Jewish Press editorial board,
I am truly sorry about mailing out thousands of letters to the New York Jewish community. You see Rabbi Klass, what I'm sorry about has nothing to do with your editorial. I'm sorry that our community has let all of us down, including you and your paper. There was no need to do a mass mailing, in fact I pleaded with Lipa Margulies to "consider" putting Yudi Kolko on paid leave, pending the outcome of a hearing at a mutually agreed upon bais din.
I sent emissaries to him weeks before the mailing asking him to "consider" putting Kolko on leave. He denied ever hearing about Kolko being a problem around children and therefore was not only not going to put him on leave, but that he was going to defend him if it ever came to bais din, which he said would never happen. He is a pathetic liar and a very evil man.
I e-mailed you the letter that I intended to mail out to the community two weeks before the mailing took place asking you to investigate. What happened R' Yaakov,why did you not call Lipa Margulies and ask him what's going on? Were you also of the belief that one day I woke up with nothing really important to do, so I just picked up the phone book and picked out a name and started ranting about the danger Yudi Kolko poses around children?
R' Yaakov, you could have been a contender!!!
Your paper could have investigated and seen that an esteemed frum attorney, Elliot B. Pasik put his name on this campaign. No, not endorsing my opinions or beliefs, but endorsing my efforts to get rid of Yudi Kolko from the classroom!
Instead you busied yourself with the "eat until you die" Pesach ads. I ask you why have you ignored this issue? Is there no more important issue to Klal Yisroel than the safety of our children? Do you really think any reputable attorney would "impose" on Klal Yisroel such a "mundane" issue as safety from sexual predators without a thorough investigation?
Why did you not call Elliot Pasik Esq? Why did you not call Jeffrey Herman Esq? Do you think that these respected attorneys would take a case of this magnitude if they thought for a brief second that these were false claims? Or is it easier to just ramble on about the issue of an anonymous mailing? I challenge you to investigate these claims; I challenge you to call Lipa Margulies and demand that he sign a sworn affidavit under penalty of perjury that he was not aware of any of these accusations.
I'm going to say it again...really clear for the entire frum world to hear, to digest, and to help you rise up out of your slumber...Lipa Margulies is harboring a pedophile knowingly and willingly for thirty plus years, he was informed and knew without a shadow of a doubt for thirty very long years and countless victims later that Kolko is a dangerous predator; and Yudi Kolko is Ill, he needs help immediately and must be removed from any environment that children find themselves in.
posted by Un-Orthodox Jew | Tuesday, February 28, 2006 |
need contributors to help out with this article.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Kolko_Scandal
to the gutter rabbi:
You sound like a real talmid chochum who understands the emes.
Rabbi salomon has been forced to say Toeesi on a number of issues over the past few years usually at the demand of lakewood toomlers.
If the outcry on this issue grows loud enough he might be forced to recant here too.
I know its not the kind of Modeh al Haeemes that you refer to in Tanach but I would settle for that.
But whether Rabbi Salomon is Modeh al Haemes shouldn't effect you -- because you already know it.
Marochok Hashem Nirah Li -- From afar Hashem has revealed himself to me -- apparently in your case from the gutter you see Hashem alot more clearly than these so called manhigim. Thats a tremendous gift.
So why remain in the gutter?
Hisnaari Mufur Koomi Livshi Bigdai Sifartaich Ami -- shake off the dust and get up adorn yourself with the clothes that are the beauty of my nation -- its time to leave the gutter.
I received this email today that looks like it has been forwarded by hundreds of people:
"I think I figured out why Margo asked twerski to speak last year about how wonderful Margo and TT is. It bothered me how stupid can a parent body be to listen to twerski who has no shaychus to psychology, therapy, molestation? Like why not ask scooby doo to speak? Did anyone ask him, "ah lawyer, rabbi, what the heck are you doing here and why should I take any comfort in what you say? Isn't this out of your field unless you are suggesting to me I do or don't have a reasonable lawsuit against the yeshiva?"
Could be Margo either couldn't afford the real Shrink Twerski or that twerski refused to come and he figured the average Hungarian schmaltz for brains parent sittin' there will see twerski and think it's the same guy, so he figured he'll ask his pal 'Legal eagle twerski' to make an appearance and maybe he'll be lucky and those P'tcha laden Cerebral heads will be impressed.
Got to love have educationless Hunks as a parent body."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Kolko_Scandal
to hagoen harav gutter rabbi shlitah
wow that was nice keep it up.
with great respect
LEIZEROWITZ VICTIM FOREVER
Kolko Arrested on Sexual Abuse Charges
By: Shlomo Greenwald, Jewish Press Staff Reporter
Wednesday, December 13, 2006
Rabbi Yehuda Kolko, 60, was arrested Thursday night in his home in Midwood, Brooklyn, and arraigned Friday on four counts of sexual abuse and one count of endangering the welfare of a child.
Kolko, a former first-grade rebbe and assistant principal at Yeshiva Torah Temimah, was released in time to go home for Shabbat after bail was posted.
On Wednesday, the parents of one of the two alleged victims filed a $10 million suit against the yeshiva, claiming it retained Kolko as a teacher despite knowing about sexual abuse allegations against him.
Yaakov Applegrad, executive director of the yeshiva, told 1010 WINS radio, "If something did indeed happen, we sympathize with the child and are confident that the judicial system will handle it appropriately." Kolko has not worked at the yeshiva or its affiliated summer camp for the last year.
Kolko has been dogged by sexual abuse allegations for several years. In May, Jeffrey Herman, a Miami-based attorney who is representing the two alleged victims whose claims led to Kolko's arrest, filed two lawsuits on behalf of three men claiming total damages of $30 million against Kolko for alleged abuse while they were students at the yeshiva.
"I think a bunch of people are out to get him," Aaron Tarnes, 30, a student at the yeshiva for 15 years, told The Daily News. "I'm disturbed to hear such things against such a wonderful man."
What is the latest on the May lawsuits? And did anyone give this letter to RMS?
It looks like the shafran site was taken down. It could be that the blogger was threatened with legal action.
UOJ Writes:
I DESPISE THE AGUDATH ISRAEL AND THEIR SPOKESPERSON BUT I AM VEHEMENTLY AGAINST PUBLISHING "PERSONAL & CONFIDENTIAL" E-MAILS!
I have urged the author via e-mail of "AVISHAFRANSPEAKS" to take down his site. There is something inherently wrong with publishing confidential e-mails no matter how despicable the person is and the worthiness of exposing Agudath Israel for the rishaim that they are. We as Bloggers must maintain our credibility as people that can be trusted to keep our correspondence confidential.
I URGE THE AUTHOR PUBLICLY TO TAKE DOWN THE SITE!
I had put up that it may be a problem, with Chadrag, anonymous told me who cares. I responded that in my business we also have a forum, & those who break the rules, don't get the justice they deserve, and get shamed & even banished. Don't let these people catch us here in the gutter on technicalities, and ruin all our achievments. Shulchan Aruch still applies. Later I posted that it had come to my knowledge that even UOJ agrees with the Gutter Rabbi's Psak. The post then was gone thank you.
http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/truth/
My Response, by Rabbi Yisroel Belsky
As the accepted possek of this generation, I fell the olam needs to know my daas on this matter. Yidi Kolko should never have been arrested. A child, whether he is six years or nine years of age should not be assumed to be telling the truth accurately. And even if it were true that the child was touched inappropriately, its not enough of a reason to label the man a pedophile and danger to society. In the early 70's,Yidi and I were together in Camp Agudah. I heard occasionally complaints from young campers that they had been fondled by Yidi Kolko. Always I suggested that they allow me to go public with their accusation. It was my way of testing them for the truth. Each and every time, I heard the accusing child refuse. It was then clear to me that they were lying. To this day Yidi Kolko was never found to be dangerous to any children. To the contrary, Rav Pinchas Scheinberg Shlita and Rabbi Lipa Margolis Shlita, after carefully investigating many of the accusers, made a very clear determination that Yidi Kolko was innocent of mishkav zachar, and that the claims of inappropriate touching was nothing more than his showing of affection. That was their psak many years ago, and the olam remains obligated to accept it without any question. We therefore must give no credence to the shouting voices of Yidi's most recent accusers. These are people seeking to make an easy buck off the back of a Yeshiva which in reality they should be very grateful to. I therefore, as always continue to stand behind Yidi Kolko and give him my fullest support. I am very certain that at the end he will be acquitted of all the false charges.
Kolko Scandal Now Criminal
Prosecutors and lawyer seeking more alleged victims after Torah Temimah rabbi is arrested; fourth lawsuit has yeshiva facing $40 million in claims.
Adam Dickter - Assistant Managing Editor
For David Framowitz, the world became “a little safer” this week.
That’s because Rabbi Yehuda Kolko, who 48-year-old Framowitz says sexually abused him 36 years ago, was arrested last week on unrelated but similar charges.
“I’m very, very relieved that justice is finally being done,” Framowitz said Monday in an interview from Israel, where he now lives.
Rabbi Kolko, 60, who left Yeshiva and Mesivta Torah Temimah in May after Framowitz filed a $10 million civil suit against the school, was charged last week with sexually abusing a 6-year-old child and an adult man in 2003.
At the same time, the child’s parents hit the yeshiva with a fourth lawsuit alleging that it covered up abuses by Rabbi Kolko.
The rabbi now faces four counts of sex abuse and one count of endangering a minor. He was released on Friday on $10,000 bail and the case went before a grand jury this week.
It is the first time law enforcement authorities have been involved in the case of Rabbi Kolko, because previous accusations regarded incidents that took place beyond the statute of limitations.
The rabbi’s lawyer, Scott B. Tulman, did not immediately return calls to his office.
As prosecutors warned there could be other criminal charges, Jeffrey Herman — the Florida-based lawyer representing all four plaintiffs against the yeshiva — was in New York this week seeking more information from potential witnesses or plaintiffs.
“I have heard from many other people about this,” Herman said.
The yeshiva now faces a total of $40 million in claims. Each of the suits alleges that the yeshiva covered up complaints about Rabbi Kolko, intimidated his accusers and allowed him to continue molesting children.
Marcy Hamilton, a lawyer who has represented a wide range of plaintiffs alleging clergy abuse, said the criminal proceedings will increase the burden on the yeshiva in fighting the civil suits.
“It’s going to be a very hard battle,” said Hamilton, a professor at Cardozo Law School. “If a religious organization wants to avoid having secrets aired in public they are very motivated toward settlement. The problem here is, since they have criminal charges involved, that tells you the statute of limitations, usually the bar in these cases, may not be a problem in [the civil] case. If that’s so, they face very serious liability.”
After reviewing the latest complaint, the yeshiva’s lawyer, Avraham Moskowitz, said on Thursday that it “emphatically” denies the allegations.
“The yeshiva did nothing wrong and the yeshiva is confident that when the case is over it will be vindicated,” said Moskowitz.
In a statement to the press, the yeshiva’s executive director, Rabbi Yaakov Applegrad, said “at no time did the yeshiva have any knowledge of anything alleged against Rabbi Kolko, nor did any parent ever come to raise a complaint.”
But Framowitz — who with another defendant, Israel Tsatskis, has taken the rare step of speaking out publicly with his allegations and identifying himself — said on Monday “the senior staff of the yeshiva for three and a half decades has known about it and basically covered it up. Anyone who tried bringing it up to the management was rebuffed or ostracized all these years. Someone has to pay the price for that.”
In an interview with The Jewish Week in August, Tsatskis chronicled how Rabbi Kolko had lured him over the course of a year, first letting him monitor the sixth-grade class he was in and having him do small errands for the rabbi. “I thought I was special because he was taking an interest in me,” Tsatskis said in the interview.
Then, Tsatskis alleged, that favoritism crossed the line and became abusive. Tsatskis said the molestation, which included fondling and groping of his genitals, continued until he completed the eighth grade and graduated middle school.
“I hate that he took away my innocence. I blame so much on him,” Tsatskis, a 31-year-old former U.S. Army soldier living in South Carolina, said in the August interview.
Framowitz made similar charges, first reported in a detailed New York magazine story.
A phone number listed for the school appeared not to be working Tuesday.
Framowitz said he hoped the criminal charges would protect other children from harm.
“The only treatment for pedophiles is to keep them away from children,” he said. “There must be dozens or hundreds of other boys out there who have been molested by him over the years.”
Herman said the criminal charges against Rabbi Kolko would not deter the civil cases. “This is about taking back power in their lives,” said the lawyer, adding that his clients greeted the news of the rabbi’s arrest with “mixed emotions.”
“On one hand,” Herman continued, “there is a sense of relief, but it is also a very sad day for many of these victims who tried so hard and hoped they could have stopped it years ago but were unsuccessful.”
The case is being closely watched by critics of Brooklyn District Attorney Charles J. Hynes.
Two lawyers who monitor Orthodox sex abuse allegations, Michael Lesher and Amy Neustein, recently wrote to Attorney General Eliot Spitzer, the state’s governor-elect, asking him to appoint a special prosecutor in the case of Rabbi Avrohom Mondrowitz, a rabbi accused of sexual abuse in 1985 who has taken refuge in Israel.
Hynes has argued that case law prohibits him from seeking Rabbi Mondrowitz’s extradition, a position disputed by many lawyers. n
David Framowitz is a true Jewish hero.
PERV CHARGE VS. 2ND RABBI
By PATRICK GALLAHUE and ALEX GINSBERG
December 14, 2006 -- For the second time in a week, a respected Brooklyn rabbi has been accused of sexually abusing a boy student at a religious school.
A suit filed Tuesday in Brooklyn Supreme Court accuses Avraham Mordecai Lazerewitz, described as the spiritual supervisor at the Geres Misivta Bais Yisroel school, of touching a student in April. Lazerewitz groped and improperly touched the victim during a one-on-one help session in the rabbi's office in the Borough Park secondary school, says the unidentified boy's lawyer, Eric Green.
School officials did not return a telephone message. Last week, authorities accused Brooklyn Rabbi Joel Kolko of fondling a student, 6, and a 31-year-old former pupil.
CONGRATS TO WHOM EVER FILED THIS SUIT AGAINST LEIZEROWITZ!!
reporters yesterday showed up to the gerer mesivtah to get pictures of the pervert and were told if you want his picture you have to go to israel for thats were he fled like the dog he is.
please if anybody can get his picture send it in to the reporters that wrote this article {patrick gallahue & alex ginsburg at the ny post}
may it be hashems will that we be zoche to rid ourselves of this evil one by one
LEZEROWITZ VICTIM FOREVER
To Reb "LEIZEROWITZ VICTIM FOREVER" - congratulations on that news. I hope you will some sort of closure eventually. I guess it's up to you, but now there is an attorney (mentioned in the article) you can contact who is familiar with this...
PERV CHARGE VS. 2ND RABBI
By PATRICK GALLAHUE and ALEX GINSBERG
December 14, 2006 -- For the second time in a week, a respected Brooklyn rabbi has been accused of sexually abusing a boy student at a religious school.
A suit filed Tuesday in Brooklyn Supreme Court accuses Avraham Mordecai Lazerewitz, described as the spiritual supervisor at the Geres Misivta Bais Yisroel school, of touching a student in April. Lazerewitz groped and improperly touched the victim during a one-on-one help session in the rabbi's office in the Borough Park secondary school, says the unidentified boy's lawyer, Eric Green.
School officials did not return a telephone message. Last week, authorities accused Brooklyn Rabbi Joel Kolko of fondling a student, 6, and a 31-year-old former pupil.
Does anyone know where I can get a copy or an audio download of Rabbi Salomon's Agudah speech. Same for Zweibel and Wachsman.
who is the attorney eric green how can i contact him?
not that i want to file a suit, just that he should know there are many more victims.
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Please again Reb Matisyahu, when I heard your Drosho, I said what a fantastic shmoose, except 1% of society in the gutter are the ones who slipped through, wait & see how many cases will be filed & how many Melamdim arrested. They will go down like skittles any one who got one undeserving slap, will go for revenge, & Chillul Hashem will peak. I was right, look what is happening.
I beg you as a friend instead of Vaadim Droshos etc, have courage Rise up & say "Toisi" we have to stand up in honor for these gutter boys who have been so patient to get justice, which is very important to them, in getting on in life. In trying to give us a chance and prevent Chillul Hashem they let us know their pain anonymously.
We erred we should have heard, instead we trashed them once more & demanded that they have Derech Eretz for us. Ashamnu Bogadnu. We will not rest until we set up an arbitration center with liaisons that they can come forth & we will hear them, and not arrogantly sweep things under the carpet, any more. We will call in Rebbes & make them admit whom they, or their contemporaries may have damaged, we will go out to gutter & find these very hurt individuals, and fight for justice on their behalf’s. We will allow people to send in anonymous notes & corroborate evidence. I beg you please follow up with action, if you just call me a Mechutzaf, or Choilah from the gutter or what ever you want, and go about your life as normal, don’t dare say that Avtalion [see my blog] never warned you.
I am in the gutter, I know who is here with me & why you are unfortunatly detached, and to difficult to get hold of.
Rabbi Yisroel Belsky said...
That was their psak many years ago, and the olam remains obligated to accept it without any question.
Rabbi Belsky, b'chvod harav, herein lies the main problem behind our entire society. WHY ARE WE OBLIGATED TO ACCEPT IT WITHOUT ANY QUESTION? IS IT NOT POSSIBLE FOR A RAV TO MAKE A MISTAKE?? The answer, of course, is no. We went to yeshiva too and we learned too and although you may not like it, we are entitled to have an opinion and to question. We are not robots (except for maybe Lakewood). Please, enough BS. Start doing what you are supposed to be doing.
That Belsky post is by an imposter. He would never refer to himself as "the accepted possek of ouur generation". Plus he would never state his position on a blog like this, even though UOJ calls him "The Blogger Posek".
Just because someone wrote Belsky's name,who said he really said it. Before we conclude, please bring us a source.
Thank you.
A hypothetical - In 1946, an Aguda convention was held to address the mistakes made by the European rabbis in failing to adequately address the dangers presented by the Nazis. Rabbi Ploni holds up his hand and referring to the Six Million says, Some cases fell through the cracks.
Nebech, that we today have a Rabbi Salomon who can refer to Jewish children in such a callous way.
There is a new, confirmed child molester living in the heart of Lakewood. He apparently moved here approximately two years ago and numerous confirmed incidents in Lakewood have just come to light. Children involved should see a therapist for however long it takes and whatever it costs. It is well documented that long-term effects can remain if these issues are not properly dealt with.
The askonim have again chosen to keep this secret, and mistakenly believe that they can control him, although the Sages of the Talmud say, אין אפוטרופוס לעריות, “there is no watchman who can prevent immorality.” Since secrets are poorly kept in this time knit community and since the perpetrator will probably strike again, there will soon be a second frum person added to Lakewood’s Megan’s Law registry, after who knows how many other tragic victims are slaughtered at the alter of the uneducated.
Is it true that this week's Yated has an op-ed by Pinny Lipschutz aka Avi Yishai that publicity about Kolko is "hamalbin pnei chaveiro" ?
sIMCHA, Who are you? Looks like you made a freudian slip. See below. When discussing the loan from MENDLOWITZ you stated that you received the loan from UOJ. I guess they are the same after all.
Are you UOJ? You seem to have lots of info. You announced that UOJ would be at the Convention and then he announced it. strange! Either he is UOJ or a lackey!
BUSTED AGAIN!!
If anyone still thinks that UOJ is not Mendlowitz, see this exchange below on the "Canonist":
IchLochZichOse Says:
December 11th, 2006 at 1:15 pm
I don’t believe that UOJ spent any serious money on the issue at all. In fact, I don’t believe he has any serious money to spend. This is a guy who borrowed $50K from the SBA (and has alienated his children and family for -among other things - borrowing money and not paying back) - there’s no way a guy like that is dropping $110K on a cause like this.
It’s more than likely that the money for the mailing was paid by Ben Hirsch, who does have some serious money (although he is slightly handicapped by the need to keep it secret from his estranged/ex-wife).
Simcha Says:
December 11th, 2006 at 1:25 pm
Hey above idiot,
UOJ borrowed that money as a co-signer for me you loser
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The SBA loan that is mentioned was for Paul Mendlowitz. This "Simcha" fellow answers that "UOJ" borrowed the money for him. He is the same fellow who defended Mendlowitz before on this blog, saying he is an employee of his and that he helps them with loans. When he said that UOJ is a macher from Flatbush, he must have meant formerly from Flatbush.
2:22 PM, December 13, 2006
KINGS Criminal Court
Docket 2006KN084956
Defendant KOLKO, JOEL
Appearance Information: Appearance
Status Arraignment
Detail
AP1F, January 24, 2007 Pending No Type
AP1F, December 13, 2006 GARNETT,W Pending JOHNSON, Bail Continued No Type CASE CONTINUED (ADJOURNED) - Temporary Order of Protection Issued
APAR1, December 8, 2006 ALLMAN,R Pending DIAMOND, Bond $10,000 Cash $5,000 (Cash) Pre-Arraignment Deposition Given CASE CONTINUED (ADJOURNED) - Temporary Order of Protection Issued
Docket Information: Standards and Goals Age Defendant Status
Docket Sentence Information: Docket Sentence
No Data Available
Defense Attorney Information: Name Type Court Date Court Part Firm Name Phone Number Address
Legal Aid December 8, 2006 APAR1 718-237-2000 111 LIVINGSTON STREET, BROOKLYN, NY, NY
Assistant District Attorney Information: Name Assignment Date
KLENGLER, December 13, 2006
I have read the letter and many of the comments. I am a 22 year old yeshiva guy who chanced upon this blog. One issue I feel is not being addressed is the following. Even if these rabbonim are wrong in this arena, which in of it itself has room for discussion, we need the gedolim for all other facets of our lives. By bashing them you are destroying what little universally accepted Daas Torah we have. You may be right that Rav Mattisyahu is wrong regarding sex abuse, but by putting him in the garbage you are not filling the void of rabbonim that this generation so desperately needs. Noone says he is not righteous, or we versed in the Torah. He is!!!! You disagree with him, vehemently I might add, in this one issue. Please don't discredit the little daas Torah we have left in our generation.
With respect to you and all of your readers,
iamcrazy3636@yahoo.com
To 12/14 5.31 Anonymous here is R' Matisyahu's speech.
http://ia331339.us.archive.org/1/items/MatisyahuSalomonSpeech-11-23-06/MatisyahuSalomonSpeech-11-23-06.mp3
To 22 year old, we are not here to bash R'Matisyahu, chas Vesholom but to let him know of a mistake, & allow him to correct it, so that Kovod hatorah could be saved.
The Yeshiva guy who pleaded, "You may be right that Rav Mattisyahu is wrong regarding sex abuse, but by putting him in the garbage you are not filling the void of rabbonim that this generation so desperately needs. ... Please don't discredit the little daas Torah we have left in our generation."
But if he is wrong and he is giving wrong advice... this is NOT Torah. Leadership demands accountability of leaders, their ideas, and actions. If he's wrong, then this opipnion, anyway, is NOT Daas Torah and he needs to be held accountable.
No, the leader of a cult is never wrong.
Very important-
Did anyone take a snapshot of the Avi Shafran Speaks blog, containing the spinmeister’s “confidential” email exchange before it was taken down?
Does anyone know how to navigate the Archive.Org website that takes a snapshot of anything ever posted? The last time I went to that site I found it very confusing.
http://www.canonist.com/?p=1260#comment-35760
Margo’s lawyer has the right experience and he obviously has no conscience since he even defended al Qaeda terrorist Ramzi Yousef, yemach shmoy.
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Ramzi Ahmed Yousef, the man authorities are labeling the master-mind behind the World Trade Center bombing, reported now in United States custody. [Yousef’s attorney Avraham MOSKOWITZ, former FBI assistant director James FOX - comment on Yousef.]
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Former law professor sentenced on child-porn counts
NEW YORK (AP) — A former law professor accused of having some 150,000 images of naked, raped, sodomized and whipped children on his office and home computers was sentenced Monday to six months in jail and 10 years probation.
Edward Samuels, who taught copyright law at New York University Law School for 20 years, pleaded guilty in April to 100 counts of possessing child pornography. He was arrested last August after two computer technicians at the school found the images on his hard drive and reported him.
Assistant District Attorney Maxine Rosenthal told the judge that Samuels, 54, had the largest stash of photos and videos of child pornography ever found in Manhattan. Rosenthal said some of the images featured girls as young as 3 years old.
Avraham Moskowitz, Samuels’ lawyer, said his client has a mental illness and had been “amply punished” because he had lost his job and had been publicly humiliated.
Before being caught, “I didn’t want to be helped,” Samuels told the judge. “Part of my problem is that I did enjoy what I was doing and didn’t want to stop. I do ask for your help now.”
Meanwhile, the two computer technicians who found the materials on his computer have filed a multimillion-dollar lawsuit claiming that they were wrongfully fired for turning Samuels in.
AJ Soloveitchik on the Agudah convention, about 15 years ago during Chumash shiur:
Meh zitzt dort und meh shtupt zich fun kol minei taanugei oylam hazeh, und eppess tzemitten, meh hert eppess a vort.
Me & my large extended circle of yeshivishe friends are supposed to make up the Agudah's constituentcy, but we are completely fed up with them.
DO these Agudah lawyers & spinmeisters count themselves among the rachmonim bnei rachmonim ? They would seem more like the orchei hadayonim that we are admonished by the Mishne Avos not to be like. Wether it was Shafran's screed in the Jewish Week or in his email exchanges & brazen public statements, there still hasn't been one iota of sympathy for the victims.
Woman beaten on Jerusalem bus for refusing to move to rear seat
By Daphna Berman
15/12/2006
A woman who reported a vicious attack by an ad-hoc "modesty patrol" on a Jerusalem bus last month is now lining up support for her case and may be included in a petition to the High Court of Justice over the legality of sex-segregated buses.
Miriam Shear says she was traveling to pray at the Western Wall in Jerusalem's Old City early on November 24 when a group of ultra-Orthodox (Haredi) men attacked her for refusing to move to the back of the Egged No. 2 bus. She is now in touch with several legal advocacy and women's organizations, and at the same time, waiting for the police to apprehend her attackers.
In her first interview since the incident, Shear says that on the bus three weeks ago, she was slapped, kicked, punched and pushed by a group of men who demanded that she sit in the back of the bus with the other women. The bus driver, in response to a media inquiry, denied that violence was used against her, but Shear's account has been substantiated by an unrelated eyewitness on the bus who confirmed that she sustained an unprovoked "severe beating."
Shear, an American-Israeli woman who currently lives in Canada, says that on a recent five-week vacation to Israel, she rode the bus daily to the Old City to pray at sunrise. Though not defined by Egged as a sex-segregated "mehadrin" bus, women usually sit in the back, while men sit in the front, as a matter of custom.
"Every two or three days, someone would tell me to sit in the back, sometimes politely and sometimes not," she recalled this week in a telephone interview. "I was always polite and said 'No. This is not a synagogue. I am not going to sit in the back.'"
But Shear, a 50-year-old religious woman, says that on the morning of the 24th, a man got onto the bus and demanded her seat - even though there were a number of other seats available in the front of the bus.
"I said, I'm not moving and he said, 'I'm not asking you, I'm telling you.' Then he spat in my face and at that point, I was in high adrenaline mode and called him a son-of-a-bitch, which I am not proud of. Then I spat back. At that point, he pushed me down and people on the bus were screaming that I was crazy. Four men surrounded me and slapped my face, punched me in the chest, pulled at my clothes, beat me, kicked me. My snood [hair covering] came off. I was fighting back and kicked one of the men in his privates. I will never forget the look on his face."
Shear says that when she bent down in the aisle to retrieve her hair covering, "one of the men kicked me in the face. Thank God he missed my eye. I got up and punched him. I said, 'I want my hair covering back' but he wouldn't give it to me, so I took his black hat and threw it in the aisle."
'Stupid American'
Throughout the encounter, Shear says the bus driver "did nothing." The other passengers, she says, blamed her for not moving to the back of the bus and called her a "stupid American with no sechel [common sense.] People blamed me for not knowing my place and not going to the back of the bus where I belong."
According to Yehoshua Meyer, the eyewitness to the incident, Shear's account is entirely accurate. "I saw everything," he said. "Someone got on the bus and demanded that she go to the back, but she didn't agree. She was badly beaten and her whole body sustained hits and kicks. She tried to fight back and no one would help her. I tried to help, but someone was stopping me from getting up. My phone's battery was dead, so I couldn't call the police. I yelled for the bus driver to stop. He stopped once, but he didn't do anything. When we finally got to the Kotel [Western Wall], she was beaten badly and I helped her go to the police."
Shear says that when she first started riding the No. 2 line, she did not even know that it was sometimes sex-segregated. She also says that sitting in the front is simply more comfortable. "I'm a 50-year-old woman and I don't like to sit in the back. I'm dressed appropriately and I was on a public bus."
"It is very dangerous for a group of people to take control over a public entity and enforce their will without going through due process," she said. "Even if they [Haredim who want a segregated bus] are a majority - and I don't think they are - they have options available. They can petition Egged or hire their own private line. But as long as it's a public bus, I don't care if there are 500 people telling me where to sit. I can sit wherever I want and so can anyone else."
Meyer says that throughout the incident, the other passengers blamed Shear for not sitting in the back. "They'll probably claim that she attacked them first, but that's totally untrue. She was abused terribly, and I've never seen anything like it."
Word of Shear's story traveled quickly after she forwarded an e-mail detailing her experience. She has been contacted by a number of groups, including Shatil, the New Israel Fund's Empowerment and Training Center for Social Change; Kolech, a religious women's forum; the Israel Religious Action Center (IRAC), the legal advocacy arm of the local Reform movement; and the Jewish Orthodox Feminist Alliance (JOFA).
In the coming month, IRAC will be submitting a petition to the High Court of Justice against the Transportation Ministry over the issue of segregated Egged buses. IRAC attorney Orly Erez-Likhovski is in touch with Shear and is considering including her in the petition.
Although the No. 2 Jerusalem bus where the incident occurred is not actually defined as a mehadrin line, Erez-Likhovski says that Shear's story is further proof that the issue requires legal clarification. About 30 Egged buses are designated as mehadrin, mostly on inter-city lines, but they are not marked to indicate this. "There's no way to identify a mehadrin bus, which in itself is a problem," she said.
"Theoretically, a person can sit wherever they want, even on a mehadrin line, but we're seeing that people are enforcing [the gender segregation] even on non-mehadrin lines and that's the part of the danger," she said.
On a mehadrin bus, women enter and exit through the rear door, and the seats from the rear door back are generally considered the "women's section." A child is usually sent forward to pay the driver.
The official responses
In a response from Egged, the bus driver denied that Shear was physically attacked in any way.
"In a thorough inquiry that we conducted, we found that the bus driver does not confirm that any violence was used against the complainant," Egged spokesman Ron Ratner wrote.
"According to the driver, once he saw that there was a crowd gathering around her, he stopped the bus and went to check what was going on. He clarified to the passengers that the bus was not a mehadrin line and that all passengers on the line are permitted to sit wherever they want on the bus. After making sure that the passengers returned to their seats, he continued driving."
The Egged response also noted that their drivers "are not able and are not authorized to supervise the behavior of the passengers in all situations."
Ministry of Transportation spokesperson Avner Ovadia said in response that the mehadrin lines are "the result of agreements reached between Egged and Haredi bodies" and are therefore unconnected to the ministry.
A spokesperson for the Jerusalem police said the case is still under investigation.
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Did Jeff Herman have any chiddushim? The first time he spoke on Brenner's show he dropped a couple of bombshells at the time.
I've been able to get multiple sources to confirm that Rav Dovid and Reuven Feinstein were aware of the sexual abuse allegations against Rabbi Joel "Yehuda" Kolko and knew the allegations were credible. They knew for decades.
And what did they do?
Nothing.
That's right our children were abused in our camps and schools because these moral pygmies and so many others were silent and did nothing.
Weep oh Israel, for we live in a generation without leadership.
JWB, you're going to have to say a lot more than that, to back up such a startling statement. Try names, dates, places, and who said what.
Let's assume, though, that the two rabbis did know of complaints that Kolko was abusing boys at YTT. Undoubtedly, they gave much thought as to what to do with this information, if anything. Assume, as seems fair, that the victims wanted to keep it quiet, because they never pressed criminal charges. They also did not bring any civil lawsuits. So what were the two Rabbi Feinsteins supposed to do, without any complaining victims? The two rabbis certainly can't go to the police, or file civil lawsuits on their behalf.
Nor can they warn the community about Kolko unless there's been criminal or civil charges filed, or least have a victim available to back them up. But they had none of that.
And YTT was and is not their yeshiva. They did not have the power to fire Kolko.
I guess you're talking about complaints in the 80s. Child sex abuse was simply unheard of then in our circles, and to talk of a yeshiva registry would have been considered ludicrous. Even the government didn't have such registries.
They were probably lied to also by Margulies with some baloney about Kolko not doing it anymore, doing teshuva, and there are no more complaints. Shevach butcher fooled a lot of people also.
Let's be fair.
Reb Dovid & Reb Reuven are very humble, Reb Dovid won't pasken a shaalo that someone much smaller than him has already paskened.[Even if he knows that they are wrong].
He doesn't run to be the main speaker every where,or any where, and looks at him self like a nothing, even less than any alumnus ofany Yeshiva.
They don't believe they are Choshuv enough to be listened to, especially if they were never asked, or if someone Paskened before them.
They also don't speak & are not Mekabel Loshon Horah, so if they were not part of a Bais Din how would they know?
IT is also not possible that two brothers were on the same Bais Din, so please don't try to get, the last few that are are still authentic.
They may not be manhigim, because they were not given that matono, and are not looking to be so,but they are Talmidai Chachomim & Gedolei Yisroel.
The only thing you could tell them is: Haloi Im Koton Ato B'Eineicha Roish L'shivtei Yisroel Ato.
Even us gutter boys need a drop of authority & Derech Eretz, and for them I have it.
"G" rabbi,
I posted the previous anon. comment. Glad you agree.
who are you going to make up such detailed stories about next?
I was not happy that the Feinstein bros were originally defending nephew Mordy, even though they are his uncles. They haven't said a word in his defense for a long time now though.
I happen to have inside information that R' Dovid Feinstein was tipped off by a younger rosh yeshiva about a molester cheder rebbe. R' Dovid called the molester, threatening that he'd better leave chinuch or he will be mefarsem on him. The molester complied.
>So what were the two Rabbi Feinsteins supposed to do,
>without any complaining victims?
They should have given carte blanche to all to go to police.
They should have phoned child and family service and made a report.
They should have written psaks, made public statements and stood for the children.
>Let’s be fair.
I certainly am.
I now expect them to do public teshuvah. Take responsibility for their past moral failure and stand up publicly NOW for these young men/children, as they should have done many years ago and even more recently.
Their failure is directly responsible for the abuse suffered by the latest survivor to come forward. A brave 9-year old abused at age 6.
And Rav Dovid and Reuven Feinstein remain silent? It's shameful. Absolutely shameful.
http://theunorthodoxjew.blogspot.com/2006/12/uoj-to-file-class-action-lawsuit-and.html
Monday, December 18, 2006
UOJ TO FILE A CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT AND DIN TORAH ON BEHALF OF KLAL YISROEL!
I am seriously contemplating filing both a lawsuit and convening a bais din with the intent of exposing the corruption in our Organizations and yeshivas for the entire world to see.
All Organizations, yeshivas, laymen and rabbis that are involved in the corruption of our religion will be named as defendants.
I am asking all Jews of good will to contact me at: a_unorthodoxjew@yahoo.com if you are willing to assist me in this effort. You can be named as a plaintiff if you wish or you can work behind the scenes remaining anonymous.
Calling all rabbis, attorneys, parents, and all Jews who had enough of the sickening corruption that has infected our community.
Get involved or authentic Torah true Judaism will be no more!
I personaly wouldn't be suprised, if they don't know about the latest stories. Find someone else to blow at, they don't leave the Bais Hamedrash, & don't run around for Kovod.
They are also entitled to their opinion how to pasken as anon said above, when they fell that "THEY " have to act they do.
>I personaly wouldn't be
>suprised, if they don't know
>about the latest stories.
Dude, they've known about Kolko's abuse FOR YEARS, FOR DECADES and they have done zero.
Their failure is directly responsible for the abuse suffered by the latest survivor to come forward. A brave 9-year old abused at age 6.
And Rav Dovid and Reuven Feinstein remain silent? It's shameful. Absolutely shameful.
I DEMAND they do public teshuvah and take a public stand.
"They should have given carte blanche to all to go to the police."
The rabbis first have to be asked this question by the victims. you don't know if they were. You're speculating. Many victims are embarrassed, don't want to relive the nightmare, or have other reasons for not wanting to go the criminal route.
"They should have phoned child and family services..."
You can't do that unless you are in possession of direct evidence, not hearsay, speculation, etc. You don't know if they were. You also don't know if the victims wanted that to be done.
"They should have written psaks, made public statements..."
How do you write a psak unless you're a rabbi sitting on a din Torah. You can't. How do you expose a child molester unless you have witnesses/victims ready to come forward. You can't.
JWB, you're saying too little, because you know too little, and you're pointing the finger at the wrong rabbis. The halachic and legal process can't be ignored.
There is no "halachic practice" when it comes to sexual abuse of children. The rabbis have shown their inability to deal with this issue and Harav Elyashiv has paskened that we must go to the police. Let the police sort it out. This insanity must stop. Too many lives are being destroyed.
(Disclaimer: I have no reason to accept the allegations here about the Feinsteins, I am commenting on the give and take). The question is if they were "tipped off by a younger rosh yeshiva" that a butcher was selling treif meat, would they remain quiet for the same reasons?
>JWB, you're saying too little,
>because you know too little,
Incorrect.
>and you're pointing the finger
>at the wrong rabbis.
No I am not. There are many rabbonim that the finger needs to be pointed at and I have done so, that includes Rav Dovid and Reuven Feinstein.
I'm not letting anyone off the hook here for their moral failure.
Rav Dovid and Reuven Feinstein had CLEAR information as to Kolko's abuse and did nothing. More recently, they still have done nothing.
If these 2 rabbonim did public teshuvah for their past moral failure and now stood behind the survivors, that would go a huge way to the teshuvah that is necessary from our institutions and our rabbonim.
As such, I demand it.
I demand they set an example for their colleagues now.
The mashgiach has the key to the butcher store. That is where the evidence of treif can be found. There is no key for opening the mouth of a victim for complaining to the police. There are no Mandatory Prosecution laws. The cases are different, Tough Question.
JWB, you say the Rabbis Feinstein had "clear information". That's vastly different from possessing "CLEAR EVIDENCE". You don't know if they had that, and I'm guessing they probably didn't.
JWB, what all of the rabbis should do NOW is something else. The evidence is there, in public. I agree, there are things that need to be said and done.
>That's vastly different from
>possessing "CLEAR EVIDENCE". You
>don't know if they had that, and
>I'm guessing they probably
>didn't.
The information they had was sufficient that if they were mandated reporters they would have had to report the information to the police and child famlily services. If they had there would have been an investigation.
They did not do so and I hold them morally responsible for not doing so.
>I'm guessing they probably
>didn't.
Bad guess.
The mashgiach has the key to the butcher store.
And if they suspected the mashgiach is in on it they would find a way to break in to the store, wouldn't they?
Also, if the mashgiach opened the store and no evidence was found, would that really be the end of it?
An excerpt from:
"Journey Through the Minefields: From Vietnam to Washington, an Orthodox Surgeon's Odyssey" by Mandell I. Ganchrow
CHAPTER EIGHTEEN: The Lanner Affair
The commission refused to meet with us regarding the report until we had it in our hands. They maintained an extreme arms-length relationship with us, fearing that otherwise they would be accused of having been compromised in their conclusions. In truth, the only thing missing in the Executive public summary that was in the full report were the names of the OU personnel involved in their investigation and the narrative of salacious material. The multifaceted issues raised by the Lanner episode carried many ethical ramifications under Jewish law, especially with regard to making the report public and engaging in possible "gossip" or "speaking ill of people." The Commission members were extremely concerned about these ramifications. They consulted with a noted OU rabbi, scholar, and professor of law, Yitzchak Breitowitz, who provided halachic guidance. He read the completed draft of the report and agreed to allow his name to be used in this regard.
One Executive Board member who opposed the work of the Commission publicly challenged me on at least two occasions to produce an opinion by a halachic leader concerning the issue of the possible spread of gossip about OU employees or lay leaders. Marcel Weber and I were equally concerned about that possibility, but were no less troubled by the fact that no Union leader had publicly considered the halachic implications of tolerating year after year of alleged abuse of children. During the long run up to the release of the Joel Commission report, Marcel and had discussed these issues with my own Rav and spiritual adviser, Rabbi Dr. Moshe Tendler of Yeshiva University. Tendler knew about the Lanner Affair in considerable detail; from newspaper accounts and through his relationship with former students, who were now coming forward with information.
Rabbi Tendler agreed to write a halachic opinion, which basically stated that when individuals had "knowledge of physical or sexual abuse of NCSY participants (they) cannot remain in the organization." Similarly, he found that employees who "violated their fiduciary obligations should ...be given the opportunity to resign," and then the Commission findings should "be sealed." During the course of the deliberations of the committee of thirteen, Avi Blumenfeld, a member of the group, and I met with an advisory panel of the Monsey Belt Din that in essence reinforced the goals laid down by Rabbi Tendler.
JWB, if you really feel that way, why post here?
Reb Dovid Shlita, doesn't suffer of paranoia, and will never know what you posted here, like some others.
He is easily accessible, go speak to him, you could find him learning in his Yeshiva Bais Hamedrash in the East side.
As I said he is very humble, and doesn't bite. If you feel he has to do something [although over here I may not agree with you] go and tell him, if not you are just as, if not more guilty than you claim he is.
He doesn't get up at Agudah & say Droshos about the gutter, so I don't suspect he is interested, and has little if any interest in what is going on over here, so posting here will not reach him, however he is accessible, access him please.
Just ranting & raving of what others should do, and how they should pasken, doesn’t help you or the situation in general.
Just because you have your set of rules what every one should do doesn’t deny Reb Dovid his opinion, he doesn’t claim or want to be the Gadol or Manhig, and I highly doubt that there is anyone who will claim he has harmed them, or even upset them; you are picking on the wrong person over here. He has not spoken either way, because he really doesn’t think he is worthy of opinion.
Please go speak to him; you will get the real picture, then come back and post your experience.
I have posted this material on Canonist as well. Their extended family and their extended family's lawyers monitor that blog closely, as such they either know or will shortly know what I've posted.
Rav Dovid and Reuven Feinstein were given privately the opportunity to do the right thing. They did not. As such I have no problem demanding publicly that they do public teshuvah in this matter and will continue to do so.
>and I highly doubt that there is
>anyone who will claim he has
>harmed them, or even upset them
According to the Pro-Tendler Jewish Voice and Rav Dovid helping alleged child molesters is nothing new:
[short excerpts of multi-page article]
July/06 issue
…
in 2000, Mr. Hynes dropped charges against Rabbi Solomon Hafner, a member
of the hareidi Bobov community in Borough Park, after a beit din said he was innocent. Asked about this case, Mr. Schmetterer said it was “nonsense.” “We would
not allow any outside group to dictate what our office does,” he says.
…
say Mr. Schmetterer is wrong.
…
In 2000, Mr. Hynes’s office issued a 96-count child-abuse complaint against
Rabbi Hafner, a popular tutor and camp administrator in the Bobov community.
The complaint was supported by renowned medical experts and a police
detective before it fizzled right in the middle of a Grand Jury investigation.
…
Tough question, I'm not saying the rabbis are blameless, far from it. They were wrong then, and wrong now, but who exactly, and to what degree are important in this moral debate.
Their guilt now is clear and beyond debate. Just in one week, two major yeshivas have been sued by sex abuse victims.
To put on a Thursday night Aguda extravaganza, touted as a "keynote" session, with major rabbis adorning the dais, and other major rabbis giving speeches about good manners and daas Torah, could not be greater evidence of guilt. Their spokesman Shafran is a blithering idiot for saying - on a blog no less - that Aguda need not comment about the arrest of one individual, ignoring the fact that the Kolko arrest represents a total breakdown in whatever institutional structure we have.
I note the comments about Rabbi Feinstein. Yes, he is an anuv, but there are times when aneivus is not the proper middah. Is this one of those times? Is Rav Dovid a member of the Aguda Moestses, and the Torah U'Mesorah Vaad? If not now, when?
Do you think the Chofetz Chaim would let himself be represented by Shafran? Rav Feivel Shraga Mendlowitz? Rav Aron Kotler? Rav Moshe Feinstein?
The mere fact that Reb Dovid is on the Moetzes is alone a proof of his ANOVA, he listens & sits with people who are good speakers at most, phonies at best, they are no equal to him, & yet take dais for themselves. Maybe it is time for him to let them go, but that is his call not mine.
As For JWB, Have you ever learned Chofetz Chaim, or do you just not hold of the Chofetz Chaim too? Reb Dovid does pasken like the Chofetz Chaim weather you like it or not.
You say “he was told”, again!! did you tell him, or were you Mekabel that he was told. Please check my posts, I don’t just Huck there has to have been a public shmoose, & proof before I will comment. [You may have noticed I never commented about the guy who was arrested, because my info is only from the blogs, although I have gut feelings & life experience, and outrage, I am not witness judge & executor all in one, and if I think I am, than what am I different then those who I am angry with?]Again I tell you stop making a fool of yourself, & go talk to Reb Dovid Shlita, I guarantee you will come back feeling very different.
Don’t come back with he knows he was told etc…
He didn’t get up & say some we sweep under the carpet, and some slip between our fingers so please be a little more careful, don’t ruin all accomplishments, by just going for everyone even the best, because then you just look like Korach & get no justice for all of us in the gutter.
Dude, I don't care what you think. Rav Dovid and Reuven Feinstein knew and did nothing. I will be recommending that they be called at trial as witnesses.
jewishwhistleblower Says:
According to the Pro-Tendler Jewish Voice and Rav Dovid helping alleged child molesters is nothing new:
see: http://www.canonist.com/?p=904 at
December 17th, 2006 at 7:01 pm
…
But the fact remains that barely two months after Rabbi Hafner’s arrest, Mr. Hynes’s office was visited by a member of an influential, ad hoc beit din and, almost immediately, announced that there was no longer evidence to support the charges, The Grand Jury that, until that point, had been hearing testimony in the case, was disbanded.
…
These include, they say, a specially convened beit din, which stopped tape
recording its proceedings when it appeared the DA might subpoena the tape;
a meeting of DA officials with one of the beit din’s rabbis to consider second-hand “new evidence” privately relayed by the rabbis; and, allegedly, contacts between DA officials and NY Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver, who reportedly stepped
in to urge the DA’s office to listen to what the rabbis had to say. “In fact, so close were the communications between DA officials and the rabbis, whose court exonerated Hafner, that, according to one rabbinic court member, the DA’s office ‘officially’ asked the rabbis not to publish the verdict until after the DA formally dropped the charges—just to dispel the appearance of a deal,” say the authors.
…
…
According to Mr. (removed)’s uncle, the rabbis on the beit din went so far as to write a statement for the family to sign to give to the DA, admitting that their son was “crazy.” When the family refused, the rabbis used other means to get the case thrown out,
…
“New Evidence”
By the first week in March 2000—before the beit din even officially handed down its
judgment finding Rabbi Hafner innocent—the rabbis were prepared to visit the DA’s office, along with Mr. Littman, Rabbi Hafner’s attorney, to produce “new evidence” of Rabbi Hafner’s innocence.
…
…
…says Rabbi Rottenberg told her that Assembly Speaker Silver, an Orthodox Jew who reportedly davens with Rabbi Feinstein, urged the DA’s office to listen to the rabbis. “Shelly Silver said he’s not taking sides, but he does want the doors opened [at the DA’s office] to listen to what we have to say,” Rabbi Rottenberg
…
Mr. Silver did not return repeated calls for comment.
…
Using the Beit Din
Asked about the beit din, Rabbi Feinstein says he agreed to be part of it only because Rabbi Cohen was so insistent. He says it convened in his office because he was the only rabbi on the panel who does not have a car.
He says that while he believes Rabbi Hafner was innocent, he knows nothing about members of the beit din interfering with the DA’s office and, he says, he has no idea why the DA’s office dismissed charges against Rabbi Hafner so soon after the beit din also absolved him.
...
...
In general, Rabbi Feinstein says, it is a good idea for would-be accusers in the Jewish community to take their charges to a beit din before going to the police.
“If the person is found guilty, the beit din would tell the accuser to go to the police;
if the person is found not guilty, the beit din would tell the accuser to forget it,” he says.
Asked if he knows of any instances in which a beit din referred a case to the civil
authorities, Rabbi Feinstein says he does not.
…
JWB, take your medicine, and get a life.
You want me to believe anonymous you above the DA, the Assemblyman, Rabbi Feinstien, Rottenberg, the Beth Din You speak about[I know nothing about, any of this just from you].
I should listen to anonymous you & judge and convict all of them. Give me a break, I would have thought more of you , but you blew it.
If I would convict just from the bloggs I am a lot worse than all those you complain about.
Can someone post more details about this alleged abuser in lakewood (bedereach remizah, of course) just in case we know this person & need to take precautions? E.g. I hope he is not a teacher?
Dear "Gutter Rabbi"
Wow. Thank you for taking the time to write the heart felt words in your original comment. "Devarim hayotzim min halev nichnasim el halev." Thank you.
Is there any rabbi who did the right thing?
The NY rabbonim who tried to stop the molester say he is British and had a kid in the same playgroup which is how he had access to abuse the kids. The protector is the false psych who like to boast he is the last of the Mohicans, I mean the last musmach of R' Shneur Kotler.
He's a false lawyer also.
One of the NY rabbis was considering reporting the fake shrink to the Attorney General's office. The Lakewood roshei yeshiva were tipped off over 10 years ago that he practices illegally but I guess they figure he does more good than harm. It would even make sense that he wouldn't get certified if he already had a grad degree. The only cheshbon I can come up with is that an illegal business can operate under the radar of the IRS and make almost twice as much money. If anyone was ever perplexed why this jerk dropped a client suddenly, it's because if he's scared any case might wind up in the courts, it would be the end of him if he's called as an expert witness.
Whoops. Strike the false lawyer comment, thought you were talking figuretively about someone else.
If you were talking about Twerski, he doesn't seem to be living up to his chiyuv under midvar sheker tirchok or his juris doctor oath, so there's no need to take back the fake lawyer comment. He should be disbarred for appearing at that YTT circus.
http://theunorthodoxjew.blogspot.com/2006/12/how-many-of-you-in-these-photos-were.html
You guys won't just go away, will you?
The big "lesson" from the Agudah "keynote" session was that even if we disagree, we must do so with "kovod".
Hey Shafran, you pretender, where was YOUR derech eretz when you responded to emails about Kolko by attacking the letter writer and saying he has bad hashkofo for asking a simple question, insulting him as the real danger to children, who you won't even comment on Kolko?
You don't fool anyone you disingenious chameleon.
At least Shea Fishman resigned. Don't you have a shred of dignity?
>You want me to believe anonymous
>you above the DA, the
>Assemblyman, Rabbi Feinstien,
>Rottenberg, the Beth Din You
>speak about[I know nothing
>about, any of this just from
>you].
I don't care what you believe. Never have, never will. My message was to Rav Dovid and Rav Reuven. They know precisely what I mean. Whether they want to do teshuvah and now stand with the victims is up to them.
Another Margo real estate move.
Is anyone aware that Margo bought a plot of land for his son at the corner of Ave O & East 17th St? They broke ground for an oversized cheese box but then the property was put up for sale. I bet it has to do with minimizing assets because of the lawsuits. I wonder who is recorded as deed holder with the city.
In case anyone's looking for me, here's what a database search turns up:
LEOPOLD R MARGULIES
415 F AVE
Recorded: 02/26/2002
609 OCEAN PKWY
Recorded: Unknown
BROOKLYN, NY 11218
(718) 438-1900
(845) 436-8211
L MARGULIES
3751 18TH AVE
Recorded: Unknown
BROOKLYN, NY 11218
(718) 436-3597
L R MARGULIES
609 OCEAN PKWY
Recorded: 03/11/2004
(718) 686-8116
Me too !!
JOEL KOLKO Born 1946
1222 31ST ST
Recorded: 10/06/2004
BROOKLYN, NY
(718) 758-1835
(718) 951-1377
JOEL KOLKO Born Jan 1947
2301 AVENUE L
Recorded: 04/15/2001
(718) 252-6642
5405 STATE ROUTE 42
Recorded: 04/01/2006
SOUTH FALLSBURG, NY 12779
(845) 434-3480
(845) 436-4849
(845) 436-7606
(845) 436-7673
11 REGENCY LN
Recorded: Unknown
WOODRIDGE, NY 12789
(845) 436-1836
(845) 436-4974
(845) 436-7925
(845) 436-8074
(845) 436-9365
(845) 436-9568
YEHUDAH R KOLKO
1147 E 29TH ST
Recorded: 07/22/2004
1249 E 22ND ST
Recorded: 05/07/2004
2601 AVENUE L
Recorded: 04/15/2001
I know Kolko used to live on the corner of Ave L and E. 26 (2601 Ave L) rigt across the street from Gil Hodges elementary school - I wonder if there are any Kolko victims in that public school or was he strictly into "yeshivah" boys. He moved from there in mid 2002 down the street to E 22nd and Ave L. The DA should ask the public school if there had been any complaints by students in that school. Furthermore, they need to bring all these Rabbi's involved in the cover up before a grand jury so they can be indicted and charged with obstruction of justice, endangerment of a child etc, this needs to be done ASAP so they dont flee the country.
http://frumnet.blogspot.com/2006/11/reaction.html
I have a relative which most would consider an extremist, even a kanai, when it comes to Daas Torah and following directives of Rebbes, even 'blindly'.
He was also a victim of abuse in yeshiva and/or camp many, many years ago, and was aware back then of some of the names which have since become infamous on the blogosphere.
I repeated to him in an approving tone the comments of Rav Solomon about 'sweeping under the carpet the firm actions we have taken against abusers' (see below) and I thought that I ruined his Shabbos.
He told me, "Leapa - no one gets kovod or satisfaction from exposing themselves as an abuse victim. If someone claims it's true - it's true.
When we tried to ring the alarms there was no one there".
A ruling by Rabbi Yosef Shalom Elyashiv appears in Yeshurun, a compendium of articles on halacha (Jewish religious law), in which the rabbi says it is permissible, in certain cases, to hand over a child abuser to the American police. Elyashiv, considered the most important interpreter of halakha by Ashkenazi Haredim, said that it was permitted to inform the government in cases in which, "It is clear that he has committed a foul deed, and that this [informing] constitutes a sort of repair of the world." Elyashiv adds another condition, according to which the situation must be that, "Someone is abusing a boy or girl such that we are unable to stop him from continuing his evil actions."
Nevertheless, he cautions that the permit does not apply "in cases in which the story is totally unsubstantiated, but is only a figment of someone's imagination. If we permit this (in other words, informing on someone on the basis of rumor - S.I.), not only does this not constitute repair of the world, but it destroys the world, and possibly due to some feeling of bitterness by a pupil toward the teacher, falsely accuses the teacher, and I cannot see any reason to sanction it."
Elyashiv's willingness to permit cooperation with U.S. authorities shrinks when it comes to parental abuse of children. This has to do with the concern that the child will be removed from his parents' home and given to a foster family that is either Christian or secular. "There is no doubt that this would harm the soul of the child, even if for a short while," writes Elyashiv, who instructed that Torah sages must be consulted in every case of parental abuse.
>JWB has already been banned from
>the responsible blogs,
>and 'methinks he protesteth too
>much . . .'.
Responsible blogs? The ones that refused to allow me to expose Team Tendler, Team Gafni and Team Worch? That if we had lived in the time of the Shabtai Tzvi, would have declared any effort to expose him lashon harah?
>If one thinks that someone else
>should do teshuva , you approach
>him with your case.
They've had that opportunity.
>If you are the wilting
>wallflower type, the 'extended
>family and lawyers' have e-mail
>addresses you can use to start a
>dialogue in private.
The 'extended family and lawyers' seem to be more interested in filing absurd lawsuits against me and other bloggers. Team Tendler has been found liable for our legal costs of $50,000.
My challenge to Circle in Square and Gutter Rebbe:
Expose ONE non-public abuse case.
Until you have some street credibility, your attacks on me are meaningless.
I helped expose Team Tendler, Team Gafni and Team Worch. I was subjected to their smear campaigns and in the end I won and was proven right.
I have a judgment for my legal costs against a lawsuit initiated by Team Tendler.
And you?
JWB,
The difficulty some of us are having with your attitude is that you are painting with a very broad brush, and justice does not work that way. Yasher koach on exposing Tendler, Gafni and Worch, but those three cases are different from what you're saying about the two Rabbis Feinstein.
It is only VICTIMS who can go to the police, not the victims' rabbis.
I would also expect that the VICTIMS confided in the rabbis CONFIDENTIALLY. They are then barred by law from revealing those confidences to anybody, including civil or criminal law enforcement.
Certainly also, the rabbis were not mandated reporters. Even today, there is no mandatory reporting law for clergy in NY.
All revolutions start off with noble goals. But often, they spin our of control. Let's all be careful here, life is tough enough.
JWB:
I ask you to examine your heart. we know the tremendous battle you have fought over Tendler. You prevailed. Just like UOJ prevailed over margo and kolko.
I smell some sour grapes in your going after Tendlers uncles on the kolko matter.
By the way if you carefully read R' Dovid's letter (in hebrew) on Tendler, you could feel the tremendous pain he was in. For better or for worse tendler was not only his nephew he was also mishamesh R' Moshe Feintstein Z'L amd was his right hand for the last significant period of his life.
Put yourself in their shoes. The pain to that first family of Klal Yisroel is and was unspeakable.
I personally believe that the Feinsteins, like many chashuvim, knew Margolis for exactly what he was, a complete gangster. Believe me they weren't fooled for a minute. They figured that there was nobody home to talk to and anything they said to Margolis would have been ignored.
>It is only VICTIMS who can go to the police,
>not the victims' rabbis.
False. Either Rav Feinstein could have AND SHOULD HAVE made a confidential report to the police and child family services.
>I would also expect that the VICTIMS confided in the rabbis CONFIDENTIALLY.
>They are then barred by law from revealing those confidences to anybody,
>including civil or criminal law enforcement.
That is utterly false.
>Certainly also, the rabbis were not mandated reporters.
That is true as Agudath Israel has lobbied to prevent them from being mandated reporters. That still does not prevent them from making voluntary reports.
>Even today, there is no mandatory reporting law for clergy in NY.
Thanks to Agudath Israel.
>All revolutions start off with noble goals. But often, they spin our
>of control. Let's all be careful here, life is tough enough.
Dude, Rav Dovid and Rav Reuven need to do teshuvah and publicly support the brave survivors who have come forward.
>All revolutions start off with noble goals.
>But often, they spin our of control. Let's all >be careful here, life is tough enough.
Dude, they KNEW Kolko was molesting children AND DID NOTHING! Why are you giving them a pass?
>I smell some sour grapes in your going after
>Tendlers uncles on the kolko matter.
You smell wrong. THEY KNEW KOLKO WAS MOLESTING CHILDREN and did nothing. They still are doing nothing to support his survivors, NOTHING. It's despicable.
>I personally believe that the Feinsteins,
>like many chashuvim, knew Margolis for >exactly what he was, a complete gangster. >Believe me they weren't fooled for a minute. >They figured that there was nobody home to >talk to and anything they said to Margolis >would have been ignored.
THEY KNEW KOLKO WAS MOLESTING CHILDREN AND REFUSED TO DO ANYTHING TO STOP HIM. NOT A LETTER, NOTHING. THEY ARE REPREHENSIBLE.
THEY MUST DO TESHUVAH AND STAND WITH KOLKO'S SURVIVORS.
>the test of true worth was expose's
The true test is exposing sexual predators and protecting children, women and even men in our community.
I'm not here to be popular, I'm here to expose the predators and their enablers. You want to proteect your "sacred cow"? I don't. I don't care how chasuv a person is or how far to the right or left they are if they abuse the vulnerable or enable the abusers actively or through their silence, I will expose them.
Rav Dovid and Rav Reuven enabled Kolko to molest children through their silence and inaction. They knew and did nothing. Now they must be held accountable.
I demand they do public teshuvah and stand publicly with the children and young men they betrayed.
I would also note that according to Agudath Israel's last IRS filing Rav Reuven is a board member.
Question:
If Reb Dovid and Reb Reuven co-sign a letter directing all parents to remove their children from Yeshiva and Mesivta Torah Temimah, how many TT parents will do so?
Why should the Feinsteins go to war with a gangster like Margulies? For the sake of idiotic parents who should know better?
Any parent who leaves their children in the care of Margulies after events of the past 30 years is devoid of reason. No one needs a rabbi to tell them that TT is unsafe for kids.
DUDE! EVERYONE KNEW KOLKO WAS MOLESTING CHILDREN AND NO ONE DID ANYTHING.
>DUDE! EVERYONE KNEW KOLKO WAS >MOLESTING CHILDREN AND NO ONE DID >ANYTHING
DUDE, Reb Dovid and Reb Reuven had specific information AND the opportunity to assist children who had been sexually molested. THEY DID NOT. IT WAS A HUGE CHILLUL HASHEM. THEY as community leaders MUST DO TESHUVAH publicly.
If they now stood with Kolko's survivors it would be a huge kiddush hashem.
>If Reb Dovid and Reb Reuven co-sign a letter
>directing all parents to remove their children
>from Yeshiva and Mesivta Torah Temimah, how >many TT parents will do so?
Some would have. Is that not enough for you? The more rabbonim that stand, the quicker Kolko would have fallen. But who stood for the children? Which rabbonim?
>Why should the Feinsteins go to war with a
>gangster like Margulies?
Because they had information and knew Kolko was abusing children.
>For the sake of idiotic parents who should
>know better?
FOR THE SAME OF PROECTING INNOCENT JEWISH CHILDREN FROM A CHILD MOLESTER.
The issue screams out! Regardless what the TT parents do or not, a rav is required to do his part. The Feinsteins did not do what any street bum would do, which is to call the police when they see kids being sexually abused. Yes, they saw kids molested and did nothing!
How's that for gedolim? R' Moshe z"l is turning over from shame.
To lkwd resident:
We certainly need to take precautions when a confirmed molestor lives right here on 14th Street. No, he is not a teacher. Fortunately, there's enough "out there" for educated, concerned Lakewood parents to smell him out, at least, for cautions sake.
I would be happier if our askonim publicized his name, as they have ample evidence to permit this using the power of beis din. I only have hearsay evidence and am not a bais din, limitimg my ability to name the perpertrator publically. Precautions? You bet we need to take precautions! Start by asking around. There are enough loose-lipped individuals who will each tell you half the story. After a few days, you'll know everything.
I would be happier if our askonim publicized his name, as they have ample evidence to permit this using the power of beis din.
Have you and/or otheres asked them why they haven't done so?
The molester from 14th St, Yehuda Oratz, who may have been molested himself by Kolko in YTT, is not the molester from the playgroup. Oratz had a liking for little black & Hispanic kids, which is what got him arrested one Shabbes at the Capitol Hotel, after years of escapades at area 7-11 stores. Did he ever molest kids from unzerra? He's still dangerous even if not.
The roshei yeshiva did sort of make a public statement when they sent Yankel Pollock to throw him out of yeshiva.
My guess is that it was too hard for his wife to leave him since her sister was already going through a very messy divorce. But I'm surprised he wouldn't move to Israel to avoid the website publicity bizyonos under Meghan's Law.
Hey, give him credit for complying with the law and not trying to thwart it. He's not allowed in chinuch. His wife is entitled to make her choices. And he is entitled to make a life for himself within the law. Were every offender handled that way - reported, convicted, registered - we wouldn't have this mess. Unfortunately, when the victims are unzerra, this doesn't usually happen.
Breaking news: Kolko indicted on all counts!
It really is a Nes Chanuka and a Chodesh Tov.
The litvaks are unable to deal with child molesters because this concept is something new and strange to them. Homosexual pedophiles were almost inknown in Lithuania. Coreect me if I'm wrong.
Homosexual pedophiles were almost inknown in Lithuania. Coreect me if I'm wrong.
_______________
You are wrong. Consider yourself corrected.
There's an old saying: Every generation thinks it has invented sex.
Perversions have always existed. The main reason you will not find much on pedophilia by rabbeim is that in Europe the cheder rebbe was a lowly worker who was severely punished if he stepped out of line. The community dealt harshly (use your imagination) with any rebbe insane enough to mess with his talmidim.
It took a menuval like Margulies to distort American respect for cheder rebbeim into a means to protect his favorite pedophile for 35 years.
For a response to Belsky, or whoever is speaking in his name, don't click here!
The preceeding has been a shameless self-promotion.
JWB,
Section 4505 of the New York State Civil Practice Law & Rules provides:
"Section 4505. Confidential communication to clergy privileged. Unless the person confessing or confiding waives the privilege, a clergyman, or other minister of any religion or duly accredited Christian Science practitioner, shall not be allowed to disclose a confession or confidence made to him in his professional character as spiritual advisor."
A Mandatory Reporting statute can override this statute, but New York does not have such a law for clergy.
Confidences told by victims about their abuse to any rabbi would therefore be confidential, unless the victim waives the privilege.
Your continued argument that the two brother rabbis should have called in the abuse complaints to government authorities therefore seems wrong. If you can convince me otherwise, I'm willing to listen.
>JWB,
>
>Section 4505 of the New York State Civil >Practice Law & Rules provides:
This relates to the admissibility of evidence in a civil trial context (not criminal). It has nothing to do with making a report to either the police or child family services.
>A Mandatory Reporting statute can override >this statute, but New York does not have >such a law for clergy.
Again, that only relates to admissibility of testimony at a civil trial.
>Confidences told by victims about their >abuse to any rabbi would therefore be >confidential, unless the victim waives the >privilege.
It would not prevent them from reporting to the police or child family services nor would it prevent them from making a public statement that Kolko is unfit to be in chinuch. Further, it would certainly not prevent them, now that Kolko's survivors have filed civil suits and now that criminal charges have been filed, from publicly putting a statement of support of the survivors out now.
>Your continued argument that the two >brother rabbis should have called in the >abuse complaints to government authorities >therefore seems wrong. If you can convince >me otherwise, I'm willing to listen.
Dude, you are 100% wrong. Rav Dovid and Reuven were aware of the allegations against Kolko for years and DID NOTHING. Rav Reuven was on the board of Agudath Israel when they lobbied the NY government to prevent them from passing laws that would have made the reporting of the allegations against Kolko mandatory.
There is no reason they or other rabbonim could not have made a voluntary report to the police. Civil trial rules of evidence no not stop one from making reports to the police or child family services.
Both Rav Dovid and Reuven are responsible for enabling Kolko through their continued silence and refusal to give the survivors assistance. They must take public responsibility and do teshuvah.
"There is a new, confirmed child molester living in the heart of Lakewood. He apparently moved here approximately two years ago and numerous confirmed incidents in Lakewood have just come to light."
I wasn't referring to Oratz. He's an old story. This is a fresh molestor of four boys who lives on 14th Street proper. If you're worried about this (as you should!) inquire of our local askonim (everyone knows who they are) who are keeping his identity under wraps. It's a shame. All professionals agree that communal "self-containment" methods only keep the perpetrator safe -- not the public.
I write this as somebody who grew up around one of the molestors, and although I was never harmed in any way (I'm not here to claim victimhood status), I am shocked by how the administrators of a $$$$ and $$$$ I attended had no problem letting this predator hang out, when they knew of the problem. I know they knew, because my parents warned me to stay away from #### #### (no, the number of #s doesn't mean anything), as his predatory instincts were well-known. Now I find myself questioning the mindset of the hanhala of ####, and wondering what respect I can have for the judgement of the leadership of the kehilla which allowed this cancer in its midst. I can say with certainty that while i still repsect the leadership of the community, their judgement is not infallible and I resent people implying that I'm less-than-perfect for believing so. In fact, when members of a community care more about the status of a hechsher on Streit's matzos (feel free to edit that out) than about whether a known child molestor is allowed around their kids, it is an insult to the eibeshter to call their fallible judgement daas torah. How can I tell a yid who is not yet frum but who knows of what happened that those who have allowed a child molestor in their midst represent 'Torah-true' Judaism? If I can't tell that to a hypothetical BT with a straight face, then I can't tell that to my kids or myself eithr. I may mistakes and they made mistakes. But I don't insult the eibeshter by insisting that every one of my actions was Divenely inspired:
sorry for ranting, but I think the above makes a valid Torah point --- in any case,
(1) the blogger who writes that blog is extremely acerbic and sometimes a bit strident in his description of his subjects
(2) however, some of the behavior which he has seen swept under the rug is frankly despicable. If someone laid a hand (or worse chas v'sahalom) on my daughters, and I saw a community or mossad telling ME to be quiet about it, I shudder to think how quickly that would affect my kavod for the leaders who tell me to pipe down.
(3) I hate to say it, since I grew up very yeshivishe and still have much of that in my veins, but I really think the fact that some Rabbonim explicitly say that they (or another group of particular Rabonnim) speak in the name of Daas Torah is what causes the lack of Kavod for Torah and Rabonnim. Part of the reason for trying to keep things quiet is the fact that if things are not kept quiet it becomes obvious that not everyone in a position of power is infallible. If I first say that al the rebeim represent daas torah, then if a particular rebbe is a sicko, I worry that that will undermine the authority of all rabonim who operate under the same assumption of daas torah.
I think that this is clear. When a Conservative or Reform 'rabbi' is caught being a predator, the Conservatice 'clergy' doesn't act like they all stand acused. It is particularly because of the fact that the yeshivishe oilam derives its authority from one source (daas torah) that the 'need' to sweep heinious crimes under the rug arises. And yes, of course we all derive authority from the Torah, but it is the assumption that any Rav from a certain oilam has a direct line to know what the Torajh wants which is dangerous.
Bottom line: being more concerned with Chillul Hashem than the safety of our children is a false choice ---- NOT being concerned with the safety of our children above all else is the biggest Chilul Hashem.
Even the goyim try to publicize when an offender moves into their neighbourhood --- it's simply common sense. Yet here we are discussing whether offenders who are AROUND OUR CHILDREN should be deaslt with publicly. Why am I worried if Joe Bloe the predator moves two blocks away but when a rebbi touches a kid it's dirty laundry and I don't wnat to know. Hashem y'racheim.
Why aren't the parents of the boys going to the police? This is an issue of pikuach nefesh. You will give a din v'cheshbon for not revealing the name and saving future victims. Remember, this guy will probably be forced out of Lakewood soon and he will move to another frum Torah community where he will continue his maaseh rishus knowing full well that the yeshivish oylam will never stop him. You must put a stop to him now.
>Why aren't the parents of the boys going to >the police? This is an issue of pikuach >nefesh.
I agree. Even if you make an anonymous report to the police please do so.
>Remember, this guy will probably be forced
>out of Lakewood soon and he will move to
>another frum Torah community where he
>will continue his maaseh rishus knowing full
>well that the yeshivish oylam will never stop >him. You must put a stop to him now.
Please also report his name to either (or both) myself or the Awareness Center:
jwbtipline@mail.com
info@theawarenesscenter.org
I cannot answer all emails or post allegations regaring people I have no documentation/substantiated sources for. But if you leave me sufficient information, I will try to look into the person in question and keep their name on a private list of such allegations in case future allegations surface. The Awareness Çenter also does similarily.
Send me his hebrew and english names, address, birthdate/approximate age, nicknames, employment history, list of other communities he's been in, nature of allegations, any family history/names of relatives and physical desscription.
Dear Harry:
Congratulations on your new endeavor. It comes at an oddly opportune moment, a time when the entire world is watching us to observe how we react to the growing scandal of rabbinic abuse and cover-up within our ranks.
While our community is sure to welcome yet another organization seeking our support and gaps in our social calendars cry out for the need of one more fundraising dinner, I question your need for funding.
It is my understanding that calls to 911 are free and to the best of my knowledge the police and prosecutors do not charge for their services.
What than is your raison d’être? Surely, you are not suggesting that victims of rabbinic sexual abuse bypass the authorities and contact your new organization. Why, that would be obstruction of justice. More importantly, that would suggest your intent is to provide cover for rabbinic molesters and the institutions they work in. Is this your purpose?
Your call for “financial reporting and transparency” is laudable and something that is sorely lacking in many of our vital organizations. As there appears to be no need for your new entity, your offer of transparency seems pointless.
May I suggest you consider cutting your losses and ending this spectacle before you embarrass yourself further? If there is one lesson to be learned from the Kolko/Margulies affair, it is that we are obligated to go directly to the authorities with allegations of rabbinic molestation. The police and the prosecutors have the training and resources to assess the veracity of claims and deal with the perpetrators. You and your buddies do not. Nor do even our most well meaning rabbis. (For an apt example, please research the evolution, geographic and otherwise, of the Mondrowitz case.)
For the sake of our children, stop this nonsense before more innocents are pulled into this vortex of backward ignorance.
January 17th. Be there or be nowhere.
"January 17th. Be there or be nowhere."
Is that the date for the Super Bowl? I hate these damn cryptic messages.
JWB,
The priest-penitent privilege, as it is classically called, is applicable in all venues, e.g, the civil courts, the criminal courts, the police station, the D.A.'s office, everywhere. The privilege is not merely found in statute, which I quoted, but has a basis in the First Amendment, State Constitutions, common-law, and even contract law. Regarding the latter, there is a shared expectation of privacy when a human being reveals a confidence to clergy. A written contract of confidentiality is unnecessary, there is an implied contract at minimum, and often an express oral contract (e.g., "We're speaking confidentially, right?").
Just logically, your argument that the privilege only applies in civil court makes no sense. What is gained for the policy of acknowledging the confidentiality of communications to clergy, when the confidence can be revealed anywhere, except in civil court?
I feel that your argument, boiled down to its essense as, What have the rabbis done lately?, is on much stronger ground. There is no need to go back twenty years to criticize rabbis. Nobody gets a free pass. If you're on the Moetzes, or any other board, its not just an honorary position, you're supposed to do something. I think I and many others would agree with you on that.
January 17th is the day Kolko appears in court.
If you go to New York State's court website at the link below, and enter Kolko's docket number, 2006KN084956, you will see that the court date is January 24, not January 17.
http://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/webcrim_attorney/AttorneySearchCase#search_result
Kolko is scheduled to appear in court on the criminal matter on January 24th.
Kolko showed up in Lakewood Sunday night for the Kurant wedding. He was yapping away all night, seemingly without a worry in the world with those Hungarian idiots from Weinfeld's shul. Figures the pompous behaima temeah would show up on Kratzmach / Nittel Nacht of all nights. What are the odds that he will show up again on Jan. 6th for the more authentic Nittel.
Pinny Lipschitz thinks everyone is oyver on hamalbin pnei chavero and giving poor Yudi unbearable bushos. You would never know Kolko had any shame by observing him.
I appreciate your sensitivity and your respect for the Agudah but the issue here is not fixing some problems that are peripheral to the organization. Rather the issue is about the essence of the oraganization. Please bear with me while I tell two unrelated tales that explain where I'm coming from.
I live in a town where the local Agudah runs a motzaei shabbos father-son program. The program consists of learning followed by a guest storyteller. I am not affiliated with the Agudah but I used to take my son because I appreciated the value of this Agudah program.
The first year that I took my son there, The rabbi of the Agudah spoke on the last week. I clearly remember his parting words. "This is what the Agudas Yisroel is all about. You follow the gedolim even when you think they are wrong."
The following year one of the motzaei shabbos storytellers was a member of the Agudah who was a known pedophile and sexual predator. This man had abused several of my friends when I attended a local elementary school. I did not witness the abuse first hand, but when in 6th and 7th grade more than one friend independently told me that the same man committed unthinkable acts my tendency was, and still is, to believe them.
When the abuse became known to the school the man was dismissed from his position. On at least one occasion that I know of he succeded in getting another job which gave him access to children. He was placed in that position by a well-meaning respected rov in the community.
Here's the issue. The entire premise of the Agudah is that we always follow the rabbonim even when we think they're wrong. But to fight this problem we can't follow the rabbonim. We are left to choose. Do we stay true to the Agudah and abandon what we know to be common sense moral and ethical course or do we abandon the essential Agudah philosophy and follow what we know to be yashar ve tov.
Aguda and Torah Umesora are two sick dying groups. Every normal day school and yeshiva should opt out of them real fast. For the sake of the children.
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